Clio cup 182 track car

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grahamloc

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11 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Hi every body
I am try to make my Clio 182 cup car into a track day car,while keeping it road legal. It is standard at the moment
Any help would be appreciated
Graham

rufusgti

2,532 posts

193 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Congratulations.

The car you have is very capable of track work in standard form. As it stands if in good condition, nothing will stand out as holding it back. With that in mind a rollcage for your own safety may be a good buy. But some training and practice is what will show the greatest progression in terms of lap times. Without the knowledge and track time you will see very little benefit from spending money on modding a 182 cup.

morgrp

4,128 posts

199 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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First things first, remove (some if not all of) the interior as it's free, reduces weight and clears the way for fitting safety devices - bear in mind for a road legal car (or any track car come to mention it) you should keep the demister fan, heater controls and heated rear screen etc. I would then fit said safety devices and then start looking at tyres and brakes - these need to be good quality and in fine shape before you even consider doing anything to the engine etc

keo

2,087 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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On my Trophy i just had Brembo discs and DS2500 pads on the front with good fluid. Good Michelin tyres. Job done good fun on track.

Faxo

448 posts

139 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Cliosport.net

T0MMY

1,559 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Personally I'd concentrate on making it reliable and usable before making it faster (although definitely stick some track tyres on it as they'll work out cheaper in the long run). Do a few trackdays to find the weak points (typically engine temperatures and brakes in my experience) and sort them first. I wouldn't modify the engine power wise at all myself; if it's not fast enough, get a faster car.

If you start significantly lightening the car you probably need to think about what effect that has on the handling balance as you'll change the weight distribution and might find you have the wrong spring rates etc. too.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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When you say track car op do you mean making it purely for track work or keeping it for road use too? Makes a big difference.

What I'm doing to mine to make it a more track focused road car is road-legal track tyres on 15" wheels, whiteline rear ARB, upgraded pads. The rest of the suspension has been checked and is in good order. I've also replaced the steering wheel with a smaller one and had the brake fluid changed for one with a higher boiling point.

Cliosport is a great resource.

grahamloc

Original Poster:

11 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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thanks for all the advice. I am keeping it road legal but hopefully a lot more track day orientated.
I will have look at cliosport.net

Robert Elise

956 posts

146 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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anyone know if the recaros are much lower than std cup seats?

ChrisChros87

91 posts

146 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Check with your insurer before fitting a cage as not everybody covers them.

A048 or R888 for tyres and some decent pads/discs to go with those. Cat back and map from RSTuning will be about it for power unless you plan on going down the boosted route? I'd just enjoy it as it is.

As said, some training will help, not sure of your car history. Out of interest, which track(s) do you plan on doing?

grahamloc

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11 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Hi Chris,
I have done Cadwell park, Rockingham and Bedford. I have done these in my Focus RS 345bhp.I feel this is a little expensive,trackday tyres etc. to run just for track days, so I picked up the clio.
Graham

grahamloc

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11 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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the clio was in a bit unloved state when I got it. Both front springs broken,so I'm thinking of coilovers all round
It has got a leak on the power steering circuit Brakes are completely shot. So needs a bit of work to put it right
It does appear to run alright.I am going to keep it road legal. I don't mind if it is a stiff ride on the road, as long as it is better for track days. I only paid £700 for it, so it is worth spending a bit on it .

ChrisChros87

91 posts

146 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Has it had the dephaser pulley done? thats the expensive part on these clios. if so then you have a bargain as used coilovers etc should be readily available at reasonable prices. having said that the clio is known for its handling on standard springs and dampers

grahamloc

Original Poster:

11 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I am going to assume the belts etc. have not been done. I have no service book. I am looking at costs to get this done!!

Speedy300

201 posts

187 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Getting all the belts done (cambelt, aux and dephaser) tends to be around £500.

I'm hoping to get a clio 182 next year to do some track days as well.

grahamloc

Original Poster:

11 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Thanks for that speedy
looks like my wife will be getting that for Christmas!!

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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The recaros are about 10mm lower than the standard seats. You can get another 10mm by removing the plastic vibration bushings under the seat - doesn't sound like much but makes a big difference.

If the brakes are shot a front set of brembo HC discs and DS2500 pads are supposed to be pretty much you'll ever need. If you didn't already know the rear wheel bearings are integrated with the discs on these, most people just run OEM on the rear as they don't do much work.

There are usually plenty of suspension parts up for sale on cliosport, but do compare the price against new.

grahamloc

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11 posts

114 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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I was thinking of coil overs
Spax Rsx type

GTR Cook

306 posts

173 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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grahamloc said:
I was thinking of coil overs
Spax Rsx type
I have these on my 172. Very nice ride on the road, especially compared to Eibach springs and standard dampers.

They do creak and squeek a little under slow speed driving, Lithium grease and keeping them clean sorts this out.

They are good on track but there are better units for proper track cars, AST's for example seem to be the favourites for hardcroe track cars.

GTR Cook

306 posts

173 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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On the braking front, Brembo disks and decent pads are ok. If your used to Good brakes then, in my opinion, you will need to change the caliper aswell. Mine have stayed standard but if i was keeping it i would upgrage the caliper aswell.