Automotive journalism....how to even begin???

Automotive journalism....how to even begin???

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psdtj

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57 posts

116 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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I, like an abundance of others, dream of one day becoming an automotive journalist; not because I want to drive Lamborghini's everyday (although that is, of course, a large part of the reason!) but because I love cars and I love to write. I write a lot, both at work and in my own time; I've been told it's pretty good as well!

I've sent examples to magazines, racing drivers, businesses, journalists and all sorts of other people...the vibe tends to be pretty good, which is always nice....but how on Earth do you convert that from good words, good luck and "we'll keep you on file" to an actual viable role or freelance work??

When I last spoke to the web editor of Autocar and Auto guy at 'the Gentleman's journal' I was just told "keep on writing and it'll happen!", but that's pretty vague and doesn't really point you in the right direction!!

I guess my question is - does anyone have any more direction? Is there somewhere I should be posting? Is there someone who's particularly receptive?

Mobile Chicane

20,819 posts

212 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Believe it or not, the first year on a journalism or copywriting course is spent learning grammar.

To a painstaking degree.

You could start there. wink

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Every time you write a new article, you should send it immediately to your chosen Editors and phone at least 100 times a day to make sure that they got it. No doesn't mean really no

jonnydm

5,107 posts

209 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Books can be written about this. Just read the latest Chris Harris Jalopnik article for an insight into the industry.

Good writing is just the start these days I'd imagine. All mags and electronic mediums want people that the audience can relate too and who are decent on camera too.

Often said that its easier to teach a journo about cars than vice versa so worth trying to get published in some sort as well as developing on the car front as it will surely add to your profile.

Potentially though, its as 'easy' as ever to help yourself, start a blog, twitter, youtube account etc. Write, share, film; all can be done yourself for free or thereabouts to a fairly high standard. Manufacturers will loan cars to those with a following. I'd say this would look fairly good as a 'virtual CV'. However, lots of people have access to all of these and I'm sure there are a fair few out there doing so.

One more thing to consider is actually how many people are making their sole income from motoring journalism in the UK?

Sir Fergie

795 posts

135 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Would doing training to be a journalist be of value if you haven't done it already????

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Make full use of social media. Write a blog, tweet it out, and tweet it out again. Get as much stuff out there as you can. It can be done.

My son was 17 last summer and decided he wanted to be a sports journalist, or specifically a football writer. I was a bit disappointed, as I thought it would be very hard to break into, and I could see a promising future in maths/science that he excelled at, going down the pan.

But he worked his socks off. Within a couple of months he got unpaid regular work on Shoot magazine reporting on the u/21 premier league. He pushed his published work on social media ( and so did I) and was soon in touch with a few players. That led to an internship with a national sports radio station this summer and 3 weeks into that, the offer of a permanent job, aged 18 and 5 months!! So he turned down his uni place to do sports journalism to actually do sports journalism for real. He absolutely loves it.

Hard work, application, being prepared to work for nothing (plus a bit of luck along the way) and it is possible.

On the down side, he's passed his test, but has no interest in cars. frown

psdtj

Original Poster:

57 posts

116 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Thanks for taking the time to reply guys smile

I have a blog/published work/write almost all content for our company website (which is pretty massive), so that's always a good start,

I think the next logical step is probably to take some form of journalism/grammar course...there's only so much you can teach yourself!!

That sucks about him not being into car, I can't even comprehend how it's possible!? I think an intervention is afoot!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,346 posts

150 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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The recognised starting journalism qualification is the NCTJ Diploma. Hope that's of help.

psdtj

Original Poster:

57 posts

116 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
The recognised starting journalism qualification is the NCTJ Diploma. Hope that's of help.
It is smile thanks pal!!

liner33

10,690 posts

202 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Mobile Chicane said:
Believe it or not, the first year on a journalism or copywriting course is spent learning grammar.

To a painstaking degree.

You could start there. wink
Not if you work at the Guardian wink

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Make full use of social media. Write a blog, tweet it out, and tweet it out again. Get as much stuff out there as you can. It can be done.

My son was 17 last summer and decided he wanted to be a sports journalist, or specifically a football writer. I was a bit disappointed, as I thought it would be very hard to break into, and I could see a promising future in maths/science that he excelled at, going down the pan.

But he worked his socks off. Within a couple of months he got unpaid regular work on Shoot magazine reporting on the u/21 premier league. He pushed his published work on social media ( and so did I) and was soon in touch with a few players. That led to an internship with a national sports radio station this summer and 3 weeks into that, the offer of a permanent job, aged 18 and 5 months!! So he turned down his uni place to do sports journalism to actually do sports journalism for real. He absolutely loves it.

Hard work, application, being prepared to work for nothing (plus a bit of luck along the way) and it is possible.

On the down side, he's passed his test, but has no interest in cars. frown
I think this sports journalism example is a good one. I know a couple of people that made it in this field and they share the same attributes: mad keen on sport to start with, pretty well educated and well informed on both their favoured sports and others, started right at the bottom rung of the ladder, learned from those above them and were in it for the long haul. FWIW I'd encourage you to develop your own style. Motor journalism seems to awash with the "clever dick" types whose ambition would be to be a Top Gear presenter and therefore think that the essential skill in writing is to be witty and funny. There are other ways of engaging the reader.

psdtj

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57 posts

116 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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ChasW said:
I think this sports journalism example is a good one. I know a couple of people that made it in this field and they share the same attributes: mad keen on sport to start with, pretty well educated and well informed on both their favoured sports and others, started right at the bottom rung of the ladder, learned from those above them and were in it for the long haul. FWIW I'd encourage you to develop your own style. Motor journalism seems to awash with the "clever dick" types whose ambition would be to be a Top Gear presenter and therefore think that the essential skill in writing is to be witty and funny. There are other ways of engaging the reader.
I agree with that! It's all about having a unique style...it very much depends what I'm writing about and who for!

I'll just have to keep pushing and keep sending examples to everyone!

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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No harm in developing some specialist interests/knowledge as well. Nothing like being the "go to" person on certain subjects

Snollygoster

1,538 posts

139 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Try contacting some of the manufacture press offices and ask to borrow a car for your blog so you can write some specific about a car and pass that onto the relevant editors.

Carnage

886 posts

232 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I got a job as a staff writer on a motorbike magazine off the back of a speculative CV, a couple of articles, and some feature ideas.

As stated above though; if I was a sub editor and read your OP I would be wincing. If you're going to put yourself in the shop window your output needs to be impeccable.

psdtj

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57 posts

116 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Carnage said:
I got a job as a staff writer on a motorbike magazine off the back of a speculative CV, a couple of articles, and some feature ideas.

As stated above though; if I was a sub editor and read your OP I would be wincing. If you're going to put yourself in the shop window your output needs to be impeccable.
I promise I can write! I wasn't really with it when I wrote this (which I know is no excuse!) I'd post example work but I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to link to external sites?

The start of that is very helpful though, did you just send all of that to the magazine or was that a progressive thing over time?

Carnage

886 posts

232 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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It was completely on spec; when I left the Army I sent tailored articles to all of the UK bike mags. I had an interview with MCN and wasn't offered the job but was successful in getting a job at Superbike.

The then editor was very clear that the reason I got the job was because of the quality of writing. He didn't care how good I was on a bike because that could be taught.

Re the car magazines. What do you bring that no one else does? Are you a qualified mechanic or engineer? Do you have a race licence? Are you a club racer? Do you have a deep knowledge of buying/selling cars? Have you any professional qualifications? Lots of people want to work in journalism, what makes you a better candidate than them?

Please take the following as feedback - first, mentioning in the OP about driving Lamborghini's. Do you think an owner or an editor reading this might think you're the person he would trust to drive his car, say to Scotland for a feature? Or, might he think you'd treat it as a jolly and stuff it? Could you be trusted to be offered a week's work experience?

Second, there are professional journalists who read these forums. The editor of Classic and Sports Car posts regularly, for example. Your posts have got far too many exclamation points, ellipses with too many periods, and poor use of capitalisation. He's not going to look at these examples of your work and think about offering you work experience.

None of the above is personal and good luck with getting a job!

psdtj

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57 posts

116 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Carnage said:
None of the above is personal and good luck with getting a job!
Taken completely as constructive I can assure you smile

Could I be really cheeky and email you an example of my work - it'd be good to hear your opinion on my actual work seen as you've been in the journalistic world?

Either way, thank you for the insight and feedback; lots to think about.

Carnage

886 posts

232 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Double post. Ironic...

Edited by Carnage on Friday 14th November 19:37

Carnage

886 posts

232 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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By all means. Worth bearing in mind I left journalism a long time ago though.

If I can offer you one bit of advice, which probably sounds a bit X factor, it's show how much you want it and how hard you'll work. Get work experience. Offer to write press releases for local race teams/club racers. Send articles to any and every magazine you can and make sure they are tailored to that publication. If you get a job as staff writer on Land Rover Weekly or whatever, it's a foot in the door. Offer to do donkey work; wash cars, take them to dyno runs, anything at all.

I race a Ginetta and the owners club magazine is well produced but always crying out for articles. I don't know if you have a particular marque of car you're passionate about or own, but see if you can do some features for the relevant owners club.