Gets Your Goat! worst driving traits
Discussion
Lemonyfresh said:
THIS! Oh god! THIS!
I can actually feel my rage building just looking at these pictures!
Why, how, when and where has it ever been easier/ a better idea to switch your sodding sidelights on with the fogs, instead of just putting your dipped beams on? Surely that's less effort? Surely that's better for you to be able to see the road?
Surely you're not that much of a bell-piece? Aarghh!
-stamps feet in an angry manner while throwing all the toys out of the pram-
It's usually the norm for "modified" E36/46 BMWs to do this round here - that and Passats, usually driven by people one step away from a amoeba. CHRIST.
...... And people driving BMW E36/46 318/316/320 poverty spec models around with wikkid STANCE bruv & alloys worth more than the car like they are some kind of ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE, where they run on pure unicorn tears and have the acceleration properties of a lightning bolt thrown by Zeus in a "who can throw a lightning bolt the fastest" competition.
No one thinks it's cool, no one thinks you have lots of money, no one looks up to you, please remove yourself from planet earth and take your s
t car with you.
....... Rant over. I feel much better now
(No BMW hate intended, I actually quite like the proper ones)
I have `DRL`s in this position on my car ,and I cannot turn the bl**dy things off. They are quite bright, so apologies in advance if some assume these are foglights which I have forgotten to turn off.I can actually feel my rage building just looking at these pictures!
Why, how, when and where has it ever been easier/ a better idea to switch your sodding sidelights on with the fogs, instead of just putting your dipped beams on? Surely that's less effort? Surely that's better for you to be able to see the road?
Surely you're not that much of a bell-piece? Aarghh!
-stamps feet in an angry manner while throwing all the toys out of the pram-
It's usually the norm for "modified" E36/46 BMWs to do this round here - that and Passats, usually driven by people one step away from a amoeba. CHRIST.
...... And people driving BMW E36/46 318/316/320 poverty spec models around with wikkid STANCE bruv & alloys worth more than the car like they are some kind of ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE, where they run on pure unicorn tears and have the acceleration properties of a lightning bolt thrown by Zeus in a "who can throw a lightning bolt the fastest" competition.
No one thinks it's cool, no one thinks you have lots of money, no one looks up to you, please remove yourself from planet earth and take your s
t car with you........ Rant over. I feel much better now
(No BMW hate intended, I actually quite like the proper ones)
Edited by Lemonyfresh on Monday 17th November 00:16
Tyre Tread said:
Pan Pan said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Tyre Tread said:
Parking half on the pavement.
We used to get this quite a lot just down the road from our house. There is a gateway into a valley park, lots of people park on the road & walk their dogs, some people think it's Ok to park on the pavement. When I spoke to one person about this they said they didn't want to block the (two lane) road but they thought it was fine to block the pavement meaning mine & my neighbours kids had to walk out into the road to get round
One particular
in a massive Lincoln 4WD tank will get reported to the Police next time they do it...Edited by LordHaveMurci on Wednesday 19th November 15:00
no casual parking spaces provided, OK the occupants of the houses might have a garage, and driveway to park in, but often there is no provision whatsoever for visitors vehicles, and owing to tight road widths, they either have to park half on the pavement, or entirely in the road, which blocks it almost completely, or a further option, don't visit their relatives / friends at all!
Since public transport in such places is either very poor doesn't go all the way in, or is even non existent, this is often not an option either, (especially if one has any equipment/ goods / material/ kids stuff to bring as well)
Most people now do it from force of habit in some misguided belief it aids traffic movement. It doesn't in the vast majority of cases since two cars cannot pass if a car is parked half on the pavement any better than they could if it was parked against the kerb so no benefit is derived.
I live in a long culd de sac and have done for some 18 years. Nobody used to park half on the pavement until some new people moved into one of the houses and started dong it. Now, just about everybody who parks in the road, does it. Many completely block the pavements. i often manage to squeeze past by folding in their passenger side mirror and dragging the chain on the dog lead past them.
There is no excuse for parking on the pavement unless it is specifically permitted in that location (I accept some places it is unavoidable to some degree).
As for visitors: park where you don't have to block the pavement and WALK!
Don't start me about parents "parking" to pick up their little darlings from school.
Drivers who come alongside on roundabouts. Had one recently somewhere near EMA joining the A42, medium-size unmarked roundabout, 4 exits. Light traffic, just me and a Focus behind. I was taking the 3rd exit to join the A42, Focus taking the 2nd exit. As we enter the roundabout, no other cars in sight, nothing else to affect, the Focus is trying to squeeze past me on the nearside. Full on alongside, matches my speed and sits there, inches from my paintwork, just to peel off for the 2nd exit while I carry on to the 3rd. Really don't see the point.
I see some right awful driving while I'm rumbling around in my little car. I don't do that many miles, only about 400 a week, but that's still plenty of chance to encounter people who don't seem to be able to drive as well as I think they ought to: poor lane discipline, fast lane tailgating, zero indication, negligible anticipation, all sorts of rum behaviour and skilllessness.
But I've developed a surefire foolproof way to deal with all of it: I look where I'm going and at what the people around me are doing, I try to anticipate their manoeuvres, and when they sometimes surprise me with a shocker I do a little rolleyes to myself and feel marginally more pleased with my own excellence in contrast.
Works every time!
It also helps that I'm lucky enough to be able to leave plenty of time for my journeys (it's mostly commuting, so I know when I need to get to work and how far away from there I live when I'm leaving again) so I don't have to rush everywhere at full whack, and that means don't get cross at everyone who doesn't clip the apex or wring every last rpm from every gearchange.
But I've developed a surefire foolproof way to deal with all of it: I look where I'm going and at what the people around me are doing, I try to anticipate their manoeuvres, and when they sometimes surprise me with a shocker I do a little rolleyes to myself and feel marginally more pleased with my own excellence in contrast.
Works every time!
It also helps that I'm lucky enough to be able to leave plenty of time for my journeys (it's mostly commuting, so I know when I need to get to work and how far away from there I live when I'm leaving again) so I don't have to rush everywhere at full whack, and that means don't get cross at everyone who doesn't clip the apex or wring every last rpm from every gearchange.
Pan Pan said:
If the authorities don't want people to park on the pavements, they should provide roads wide enough for vehicles to get by in both directions, with parked vehicles fully on the carriageway. Alternatively they should provide a certain number of visitor parking spaces depending on the numbers of individual dwellings in a given area. Only they don't do this, hence the main reason for people having to park on pavements, Narrow roads, no where else to park.
Are you serious?Right then, we'd better start knocking down most of the buildings in built up areas then to widen the roads to your specification.
Mound Dawg said:
One that bugs me particularly now that I own a car with cruise control is people's inability to maintain a reasonably constant speed on the motorway.
I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
Oh yes, most of my driving is on motorways and this winds me up more than most things. I once managed 12 overtakes of the same van going down the M5, it does get rather annoying after a while. Often it's cars which clearly have cruise control but driver is apparently incapable of using it I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
.Tyre Tread said:
Are you serious?
Right then, we'd better start knocking down most of the buildings in built up areas then to widen the roads to your specification.
I live on a street of new houses and parking is sRight then, we'd better start knocking down most of the buildings in built up areas then to widen the roads to your specification.
t. They could have built another twenty spaces but instead they decided to put in a "green area" which children are not allowed to play on.
People who drive out of a multistorey car park at night, disappearing into the night with no lights because they could see where they were going in the lit car park..
OR
Drivers who rely on autolights to do everything, without cross-checking that the lights lit (or there lack of in fog/spray) are the lights required. Maybe that's why people never indicate? Perhaps they think autolights means auto-indicators too
OR
Drivers who rely on autolights to do everything, without cross-checking that the lights lit (or there lack of in fog/spray) are the lights required. Maybe that's why people never indicate? Perhaps they think autolights means auto-indicators too
ADM06 said:
Tyre Tread said:
Are you serious?
Right then, we'd better start knocking down most of the buildings in built up areas then to widen the roads to your specification.
I live on a street of new houses and parking is sRight then, we'd better start knocking down most of the buildings in built up areas then to widen the roads to your specification.
t. They could have built another twenty spaces but instead they decided to put in a "green area" which children are not allowed to play on.But there is no excuse whatsoever for modern housing developments to be built without adequate visitor parking spaces. Do the designers believe that the only people requiring parking on such a development will be those who will live in the dwellings? do they not realize that at some point others will wish to visit those people in these dwellings, Do they not realize that at some point others will wish to deliver, goods and services (including emergency vehicles) which use vehicles which must be parked in these places, in some cases as close to a particular building as possible.
Some of my relatives live in such new estates, where the only option when visiting them, is to park
partly on the pavements (Which I might add, unlike the roads are completely empty for most of the time) if blocking the poorly designed (But again still in accordance with the local design guide)roads is to be avoided.
Pan Pan said:
It is true that there is existing housing/buildings, which were built before vehicles were even dreamt of. Indeed some parts of London, were designed and built with only sedan chairs in mind, resulting in tiny alley ways between large houses, such was the designers wish even then, to cram as many dwellings into a given space to maximize their profits. (but who in their right mind would actually want to live in such crappy conditions, with narrow dark streets or alleys between buildings?) The current crop of Design guides also allow vernacular features to be used, which then allows developers `interpretation' to cram as many dwellings into a given site as they can. Government density requirements were a dream come true for many of them. But this could just be the price of living in a small, cramped, overcrowded island such as the UK where people actually go to court over the rights to a few millimetres (in some cases)of ground.
But there is no excuse whatsoever for modern housing developments to be built without adequate visitor parking spaces. Do the designers believe that the only people requiring parking on such a development will be those who will live in the dwellings? do they not realize that at some point others will wish to visit those people in these dwellings, Do they not realize that at some point others will wish to deliver, goods and services (including emergency vehicles) which use vehicles which must be parked in these places, in some cases as close to a particular building as possible.
Some of my relatives live in such new estates, where the only option when visiting them, is to park
partly on the pavements (Which I might add, unlike the roads are completely empty for most of the time) if blocking the poorly designed (But again still in accordance with the local design guide)roads is to be avoided.
You really dont understand deveklopment at all. PPG3 and PPS 3 were a nightmare and not a developers dreak come true. Its hard to sell houses where there is only one space per house, and sales rates are fundamental to development cashflow.But there is no excuse whatsoever for modern housing developments to be built without adequate visitor parking spaces. Do the designers believe that the only people requiring parking on such a development will be those who will live in the dwellings? do they not realize that at some point others will wish to visit those people in these dwellings, Do they not realize that at some point others will wish to deliver, goods and services (including emergency vehicles) which use vehicles which must be parked in these places, in some cases as close to a particular building as possible.
Some of my relatives live in such new estates, where the only option when visiting them, is to park
partly on the pavements (Which I might add, unlike the roads are completely empty for most of the time) if blocking the poorly designed (But again still in accordance with the local design guide)roads is to be avoided.
Further, increased densities, where they do increase GDV usually result in a higher land value which doesnt go to the developer it goes toi the land owner.
In essence from about 2003 to 2011 house builders were forced to build product that they didnt want to build and that people didnt want to buy. This contributed to the recession because new stock was hard to sell as the market dropped. People dont really want to buy 3 storey terraced townhouses with tiny narrow gardens where 25% of the floor space is taken up with stairwell.
You can also thank HRH Price of Wales with his "Flagship" Poundbury which convinced many planning authorites that dragging design back tio the 18th century was a good idea.
Back on topic - parking is mainly an issue because people part without thinking of the impact on others
blueg33 said:
Tyre Tread said:
And to protect their alloy wheels 
Not convinced I reckon about 90% of the cars I look at as I wander around have kerbed alloysBefore about 1980 you rarely saw a car mount the pavement except where absolutely unavoidable.
Since the widespread introductiojn of alloy weheels it has become commonplace.
Ah, but is there a connection? Well, take a look at the way many, if not most vehciles are parked on the kerb. Do they just about run the car up onto the pavement or do they park mostly on the pavement.
Take a look at whether the majority of cars that are parked on the pavement allow 2 cars to pass in opposite directions by them doing so. Generally the answer is no so there is little to be gained for the parking nehicle or for the pasing traffic by placing 2 wheels on the pavement.
Perhaps its just bad judgement on the part of the person parking? If that were the case then a good number of cars would be parked 12 inches from the kerb when, in reality, that is rare.
I suppose it could be that a good proportion of people are that bad at judging the width of their car that the only way they know they are close to the kerb is to mount it. If that were the case then surely they would mount and de-mount with the front wheel as many people used to do to ensure they were close to, but not parked on, the pavement?
I may be wrong but it gets my goat that parking on pavements is so widespead when it serves no purpose, damages cars and infrastructure and greys the line between what is and isn't acceptable when driving a car.
Here are a couple.
When you are going onto a motorway or dual carriageway via a slip road you donot force your way onto it but are supposed to build your speed up to that of the traffic and merge. You dont drive up to the first bit of the slip road turn 90 degrees and try to drive onto it slowing the approaching traffic.
If like the M25 there is a traffic jam then go to the end of the slip road and merge. think of it as flowing water or sand.
Trucks that overtake other trucks as they approach a hill on the motorway dual carriageway slowing all the traffic.
When you are going onto a motorway or dual carriageway via a slip road you donot force your way onto it but are supposed to build your speed up to that of the traffic and merge. You dont drive up to the first bit of the slip road turn 90 degrees and try to drive onto it slowing the approaching traffic.
If like the M25 there is a traffic jam then go to the end of the slip road and merge. think of it as flowing water or sand.
Trucks that overtake other trucks as they approach a hill on the motorway dual carriageway slowing all the traffic.
It used to be foglights for me but these are worse:
Inconsiderate tossers who don't acknowledge when you've let them through.
The absolute morons who bib their horn when you slow down to take a speed bump slow enough that it's not going to cause damage to the front of your car, as not damaging you car has held them up and is making them late.
The third is something that seems to be prevalent in London, and it's motorcyclists riding into oncoming traffic when it's not safe to do so - I've no objection to bikes filtering through and will move to leave space when appropriate, BUT I am losing count of the number of head-on collisions that I've narrowly avoided. This piece of road is a prime example - a pretty much blind bend on a dip under a railway bridge, hence double-white lines - in the morning when there's a queue on the opposite side I now anticipate having to brake for a bike on the wrong side.
Inconsiderate tossers who don't acknowledge when you've let them through.
The absolute morons who bib their horn when you slow down to take a speed bump slow enough that it's not going to cause damage to the front of your car, as not damaging you car has held them up and is making them late.
The third is something that seems to be prevalent in London, and it's motorcyclists riding into oncoming traffic when it's not safe to do so - I've no objection to bikes filtering through and will move to leave space when appropriate, BUT I am losing count of the number of head-on collisions that I've narrowly avoided. This piece of road is a prime example - a pretty much blind bend on a dip under a railway bridge, hence double-white lines - in the morning when there's a queue on the opposite side I now anticipate having to brake for a bike on the wrong side.
redtwin said:
Anyone at a junction waiting to pull out that does not pay attention to oncoming traffic. You see them waiting, adjust your speed to create a gap they can pull into, then flash repeatedly (knocking hours of life off your main beam bulbs) and they roundly ignore you.
Quite rightly so...as flashing of headlights is a warning of your presence, not an invitation to proceed! Maybe they read the highway code Had a nice incident last night. Some numpty decided they wouldn't stop at the junction as they joined the road I was travelling on. This caused me to brake and slow right down. They then proceeded to travel along at 35mph in the 50mph zone we were in.
Why do people do this? Pull out in front of you and then travel along really slowly.
Why do people do this? Pull out in front of you and then travel along really slowly.
Road2Ruin said:
redtwin said:
Anyone at a junction waiting to pull out that does not pay attention to oncoming traffic. You see them waiting, adjust your speed to create a gap they can pull into, then flash repeatedly (knocking hours of life off your main beam bulbs) and they roundly ignore you.
Quite rightly so...as flashing of headlights is a warning of your presence, not an invitation to proceed! Maybe they read the highway code I never trust anyone unless they indicate, its not hard to flash the lights - how do people not realise its almost impossible to see their hand signals from inside another car?!
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