oil top ups

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RC1

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4,097 posts

219 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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For those that need to do you top up periodically or wait for the dash light to come on

mudster

784 posts

244 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Check oil level regularly and top up if required. Would never wait for an oil light to come on.

RichardM5

1,738 posts

136 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Measure the oil level at regular intervals, depends a bit on how much your engine uses, but no more than every 1000 miles or once a week, top up with exactly the same oil that was used for the fill to keep it full. You shouldn't have to add more than 250ml, any more and you're not checking often enough or have an oil consumption problem.

RC1

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4,097 posts

219 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I never wait but curious how some folks seems to be able to cite with apparent accuracy how much their car consumes. My dipstick at least has a range within both the min and max markers and I'm thinking at least for the min level the main oil level gauge is likely a more consisent reference point for the min level than the dipstick for you to then more accurately assess use?

BritishRacinGrin

24,701 posts

160 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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RC1 said:
I never wait but curious how some folks seems to be able to cite with apparent accuracy how much their car consumes
...by noting the amount of oil added to get it bach up to the 'MAX' mark, probably using the gauge on the side of the bottle?

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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I check semi-regularly. Never had the light come on the dash. My car seems to use around 250ml for every few thousand miles or so.

Riggie

179 posts

125 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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I understand that BMW say the maximum allowed consumption is 1 litre every 500 miles!


Fox-

13,238 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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mudster said:
Check oil level regularly and top up if required. Would never wait for an oil light to come on.
The only reason not to wait for the light is if you are concerned about it's reliability, which is a legitimate concern on older cars (The one on my E39 died some time ago). The light is not an oil pressure light, it's specifically designed to tell you when to top up. This is why the description in the handbook tells you that it means you need to top up 'when convenient (ie when you next refuel)' rather than 'immediately'.

There are 3 stages IIRC, only the second two stages are lights you should avoid ever seeing.

4rephill

5,040 posts

178 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Riggie said:
I understand that BMW say the maximum allowed consumption is 1 litre every 500 miles!
It's 1 litre per 600 miles (1000Km's).


motco

15,956 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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My stage one (yellow 'top-up' light) comes on after switching the engine off as it should, but before the level has dropped below half way. 2.2i Z3 (M54). Allow it to idle for s few seconds before switching off and it will usually remain off.

RC1

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219 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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BritishRacinGrin said:
...by noting the amount of oil added to get it bach up to the 'MAX' mark, probably using the gauge on the side of the bottle?
but the max mark is a notch of about 4-5mm in the dipstick

4rephill

5,040 posts

178 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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RC1 said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
...by noting the amount of oil added to get it bach up to the 'MAX' mark, probably using the gauge on the side of the bottle?
but the max mark is a notch of about 4-5mm in the dipstick
All of the BMW's I've ever owned have had two marks on the dipstick, a lower mark and an upper mark and the difference between the two marks is exactly 1 litre.

RichardM5

1,738 posts

136 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Oh, to actually have a dip stick ....

Jon1967x

7,228 posts

124 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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I wait for the light although I rarely ever see it come on. On the wifes car it came on (usually when you stop and turn the engine off not while driving) and after topping it up I checked a few times and it seemed to resolve itself.

On the basis that my car decided to tell me once to drive carefully and seek immediate attention due to no rear brake pads only to be told by the garage the pads still had a couple of thousand miles in them, I can't help thinking that there's a healthy safety margin on these things.

mudster

784 posts

244 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Fox- said:
mudster said:
Check oil level regularly and top up if required. Would never wait for an oil light to come on.
The only reason not to wait for the light is if you are concerned about it's reliability, which is a legitimate concern on older cars (The one on my E39 died some time ago). The light is not an oil pressure light, it's specifically designed to tell you when to top up. This is why the description in the handbook tells you that it means you need to top up 'when convenient (ie when you next refuel)' rather than 'immediately'.

There are 3 stages IIRC, only the second two stages are lights you should avoid ever seeing.
Completely agree with your reasoning Fox. Sadly, I am old school and would never wait for a light. Just a habit which I am not likely to break any time soon I'm afraid.

4rephill

5,040 posts

178 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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mudster said:
Fox- said:
mudster said:
Check oil level regularly and top up if required. Would never wait for an oil light to come on.
The only reason not to wait for the light is if you are concerned about it's reliability, which is a legitimate concern on older cars (The one on my E39 died some time ago). The light is not an oil pressure light, it's specifically designed to tell you when to top up. This is why the description in the handbook tells you that it means you need to top up 'when convenient (ie when you next refuel)' rather than 'immediately'.

There are 3 stages IIRC, only the second two stages are lights you should avoid ever seeing.
Completely agree with your reasoning Fox. Sadly, I am old school and would never wait for a light. Just a habit which I am not likely to break any time soon I'm afraid.
On some cars now you don't get a choice as they no longer have a dipstick and rely solely on a dashboard light to let you know when you need oil.

Riggie

179 posts

125 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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I have the luxury of the computer oil display and a dipstick. If the display shows that it has dropped a bit, I check on the dipstick. It showed about 20% down on the display and similar on the dipstick so added 200ml which brought it back to max. Maybe the electronic one is accurate after all?

I check regularly and wouldn't let it get down to the minimum before topping up.

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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I wait for the OBC to say "add 1 litre", not the oil light (never seen that on any car) having said that my last m3 only used 1 litre over 38,000 miles, my old 520d didn't use any over 50,000 miles, the Z4C has never used any, so far the 335d hasn't used any either over 10,000 miles.

The only BMW I've had that used oil was an ex demo M3 and that wanted a litre every 5k, I suspect it was ragged by test pilots before it was fully run in.

I know some people get horrible oil consumption, rightly or wrongly I've always seen that as a sign of a badly run in car.

Fox-

13,238 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Wills2 said:
I wait for the OBC to say "add 1 litre", not the oil light (never seen that on any car)
The E46 generation and older BMW's do not have an 'Add 1 litre' warning text, instead they have an amber oil can symbol which illuminates once you switch the engine off if the oil requires topup.

The modern ones instead say 'Add 1 litre' which is presumably the more up to date equivalent of that light.

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Fox- said:
Wills2 said:
I wait for the OBC to say "add 1 litre", not the oil light (never seen that on any car)
The E46 generation and older BMW's do not have an 'Add 1 litre' warning text, instead they have an amber oil can symbol which illuminates once you switch the engine off if the oil requires topup.

The modern ones instead say 'Add 1 litre' which is presumably the more up to date equivalent of that light.
I know, I was talking about my recent cars.