first pic of McLaren Honda

first pic of McLaren Honda

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bubney72

1,100 posts

153 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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andyps said:
London424 said:
Well they had the best engine last year...
But didn't have the right fuel to make the perform as well as the other teams that used it.
B.S

bubney72

1,100 posts

153 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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to be completely honest, this macca looks like a sack of crap apart from the red.

BritishRacinGrin

24,638 posts

160 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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bubney72 said:
andyps said:
London424 said:
Well they had the best engine last year...
But didn't have the right fuel to make the perform as well as the other teams that used it.
B.S
How so? I think I read in Autosport that Mobil fuel was losting Maclaren 40bhp as the Mercedes engine was tuned on Petronas.

bubney72

1,100 posts

153 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Alonso must feel such a dick knowing he's driving this, especially now the new Ferrari has been revealed. Bad mistake.

BritishRacinGrin

24,638 posts

160 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Why? I reckon it'll be faster than the Ferrari once they've got some testing miles and got it running reliably.

BritishRacinGrin

24,638 posts

160 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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PW said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
It could equally be argued that Maclaren are continuing to advertise West.
Not "equally" argued.

The Marlboro livery was LITERALLY the Marlboro logo. The West livery is the West branding applied to a silver and black car.

If you showed just the two colour schemes with no other branding and asked a random selection of people to identify the sponsors, I think very few would guess West without prior knowledge of their involvement with McLaren.
Do you think therefore that people are going to see this



and immediately think Marlboro?

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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BritishRacinGrin said:
bubney72 said:
andyps said:
London424 said:
Well they had the best engine last year...
But didn't have the right fuel to make the perform as well as the other teams that used it.
B.S
How so? I think I read in Autosport that Mobil fuel was losting Maclaren 40bhp as the Mercedes engine was tuned on Petronas.
yes

suffolk009

5,373 posts

165 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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andyps said:
London424 said:
Well they had the best engine last year...
But didn't have the right fuel to make the perform as well as the other teams that used it.
Or full access to the software.

London424

12,828 posts

175 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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andyps said:
yes
Weren't they the back of the pack of the Merc cars?

Now some are expecting Honda to have developed an engine faster than Merc while at the same time improving all aspects of the cars performance.

I think bookies would love to take your money.

Galileo

3,145 posts

218 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I like the colour scheme. I don't know what you children are complaining about.

Silverbullet767

10,698 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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BritishRacinGrin said:
Do you think therefore that people are going to see this



and immediately think Marlboro?
Now THATS more like it, and it immediately makes you look at the honda sign on the side. It's different, and still McLaren at the same time.

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Silverbullet767 said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
Do you think therefore that people are going to see this



and immediately think Marlboro?
Now THATS more like it, and it immediately makes you look at the honda sign on the side. It's different, and still McLaren at the same time.
The livery below was originally silver but I have changed the silver to white (AkzoNobel-Sikkens do more than just chrome paint). The rear is very Honda as it's similar to the Super Aguri livery, whilst still keeping the McLaren corporate grey at the front.


Galileo

3,145 posts

218 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Silverbullet767 said:
BritishRacinGrin said:
Do you think therefore that people are going to see this



and immediately think Marlboro?
Now THATS more like it, and it immediately makes you look at the honda sign on the side. It's different, and still McLaren at the same time.
The livery below was originally silver but I have changed the silver to white (AkzoNobel-Sikkens do more than just chrome paint). The rear is very Honda as it's similar to the Super Aguri livery, whilst still keeping the McLaren corporate grey at the front.

That looks like a Honda F1 not a McLaren Honda F1.

The car IS a McLaren and should therefore look like one. If Honda wanted the car to look like that then they should go the whole hog and develope a chassis. (Or buy a team).

Don't get me wrong, it's a lovely colour scheme, it's just not a McLaren.

DanielSan

18,774 posts

167 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
The livery below was originally silver but I have changed the silver to white (AkzoNobel-Sikkens do more than just chrome paint). The rear is very Honda as it's similar to the Super Aguri livery, whilst still keeping the McLaren corporate grey at the front.

I think that looks fantastic.

groomi

9,317 posts

243 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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The team gear is black and white. Can someone Photoshop the launch pics to just change the silver to white?

I think that would then look much more effective.

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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London424 said:
andyps said:
yes
Weren't they the back of the pack of the Merc cars?

Now some are expecting Honda to have developed an engine faster than Merc while at the same time improving all aspects of the cars performance.

I think bookies would love to take your money.
They were at the back as the other Merc powered teams all used the Petronas fuel and oil developed with and for the engine, and around which the engine was developed. McLaren are contracted to Mobil and therefore couldn't use it and lost out because of that.

Hopefully the next few days will show what Honda have done, I don't know anything other than the speculation, my only thought is that Alonso would have wanted to see something concrete about the power figures before signing for this year to make sure he wasn't jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. A year out would be better than that but it seems he is prepared to accept some compromises from comments he has made, maybe accepting reliability issues in favour of performance?

Not long to wait to find out!

Inertiatic

1,040 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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groomi said:
The team gear is black and white. Can someone Photoshop the launch pics to just change the silver to white?

I think that would then look much more effective.
I've liked the McLaren kit over the last few years as it was subtle. Surpised the car livery is so close to the previous vodafone era though

Inertiatic

1,040 posts

190 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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Gaz. said:
andyps said:
They were at the back as the other Merc powered teams all used the Petronas fuel and oil developed with and for the engine, and around which the engine was developed. McLaren are contracted to Mobil and therefore couldn't use it and lost out because of that.

Hopefully the next few days will show what Honda have done, I don't know anything other than the speculation, my only thought is that Alonso would have wanted to see something concrete about the power figures before signing for this year to make sure he wasn't jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. A year out would be better than that but it seems he is prepared to accept some compromises from comments he has made, maybe accepting reliability issues in favour of performance?

Not long to wait to find out!
Yet they barely beat Force India with 300% of their budget, and still were beaten by RBR & Ferrari who would have quite happily junked their PUs for a Merc on Mobil 1 fuel in a heartbeat. They massively underperformed.
True, but towards the end of the season the Mclarens (well Button) were finding speed and up with the chasing pack. Plus this is a new car that builds on the old one.

If the engine can at least match the Merc they should be there or thereabout...

suffolk009

5,373 posts

165 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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I was never a fan of the old team wear. But I'm rather looking forward to wearing a McLaren Honda T-shirt on certain Sundays this year.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Saturday 31st January 2015
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suffolk009 said:
I was never a fan of the old team wear. But I'm rather looking forward to wearing a McLaren Honda T-shirt on certain Sundays this year.
Almost the same as last year....
White with black shoulders instead of grey, plus a diffrent badge.

Last years ones are only 10.99 this years £40 .