"Residents only" parking sign

"Residents only" parking sign

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BHML

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307 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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There is a road near my son's school which is a cul-de-sac and it has "residents only parking" sign at the road entrance. There are a number of marked bays, but no additional signage (other than the main sign at the road entrance). There are also no resident parking permits, etc in operation. Anyone can park there during school pick up times and whilst there are traffic wardens on the main road, I have never known of anyone being fined for parking in the cul-de-sac. But as you might imagine it has led to some unpleasant exchanges between residents and parents dropping off/picking up their kids from school.

From a legal perspective is the "residents only parking" legally enforceable?

Durzel

12,232 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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IANAL but would've thought it possible that the parking area formed part of the deeds for the respective residents (e.g. an assigned parking space(s)), so whilst there aren't any physical obstructions it would be akin to parking on their drive?

JQ

5,691 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Is it possible it's a private road?

BHML

Original Poster:

307 posts

169 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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JQ said:
Is it possible it's a private road?
The sign just says residents only parking - there is no signs alluding to it being a private road...

Magic919

14,126 posts

200 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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It's likely to be an unadopted road by the sounds of it.

JQ

5,691 posts

178 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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BHML said:
JQ said:
Is it possible it's a private road?
The sign just says residents only parking - there is no signs alluding to it being a private road...
There doesn't have to be.

konark

1,088 posts

118 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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It never ceases to amaze me that people who buy a house near a school seem to get upset by parents dropping their kids off and parking for a few minutes. It's like buying a house near a sewage works and then moaning about the smell. People should do their 'due diligence', if they don't like a lot of traffic at 9am and 3.30pm buy somewhere else.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

150 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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My first marital home was next to a school, parents were an absolute nightmare, blocking drives, abusive if asked to move, however we bought there and lived with it, we moved as soon as we could upgrade. I understand both sides of the argument is the point I'm making.

CaptainMorgan

1,454 posts

158 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Yeah sensible, safe parking is all good but I've yet to go past a school at kicking out time where all the parents have bothered to do that, they seem to just abandon their cars where they feel like it.

It's all well and good saying they shouldn't live there but my mate lives near a school 20+ years ago when he moved in 90% of the kids walked in, no issues at all. Now it's full on chaos, he has come home on more than one occasion to find a random car left on his driveway!

From the OPs post it sounds like small side road that are fed up of parents using their property as a car park, hence the signs.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

283 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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konark said:
It never ceases to amaze me that people who buy a house near a school seem to get upset by parents dropping their kids off and parking for a few minutes. It's like buying a house near a sewage works and then moaning about the smell. People should do their 'due diligence', if they don't like a lot of traffic at 9am and 3.30pm buy somewhere else.
Not everyone has a choice in where they can live that will give them "away from everything". Maybe the houses are nice, maybe it is all they can afford, maybe they have been there before it was fashionable to drive kids to school.

I have seen some prize plonkers parking near schools and if anything around here is anything to go by, how many can actually walk their kids to school? Obviously it is not always the case but I see many parents around here drive to the local school. I can walk it in ten minutes or less.

Parents and the school run, are in the main, single minded in determination and woe betide anyone that says "blocking my drive" etc is an issue.

Personally I would park further out and walk if I did not live close enough and let those that live there, live in peace.

leigh1050

2,372 posts

164 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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konark said:
It never ceases to amaze me that people who buy a house near a school seem to get upset by parents dropping their kids off and parking for a few minutes. It's like buying a house near a sewage works and then moaning about the smell. People should do their 'due diligence', if they don't like a lot of traffic at 9am and 3.30pm buy somewhere else.
Why cant the parents walk the little fkers to school? Might be a few less fat kids about!
My mother only took me to school and picked me up on my first day of primary school.After that I used to meet a couple of mates and walk.Until I started secondary then I got the bus.

rs1952

5,247 posts

258 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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JQ said:
BHML said:
JQ said:
Is it possible it's a private road?
The sign just says residents only parking - there is no signs alluding to it being a private road...
There doesn't have to be.
But what there will probably be, if the road is indeed a private road, is a line of cobbles or similar in the road which marks the boundary between the adopted highway and the private road.

Durzel

12,232 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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fk You Got Mine culture. Every parent of this ilk thinks their child is the most important thing on Earth, and property, ethics or simple manners are just the things they expect other people to respect.

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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leigh1050 said:
Why cant the parents walk the little fkers to school? Might be a few less fat kids about!
My mother only took me to school and picked me up on my first day of primary school.After that I used to meet a couple of mates and walk.Until I started secondary then I got the bus.
You walked to school without supervision when you were 4 years old?

leigh1050

2,372 posts

164 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Mave said:
leigh1050 said:
Why cant the parents walk the little fkers to school? Might be a few less fat kids about!
My mother only took me to school and picked me up on my first day of primary school.After that I used to meet a couple of mates and walk.Until I started secondary then I got the bus.
You walked to school without supervision when you were 4 years old?
I was 5 and it was only about half a mile.

mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Tuesday 18th November 2014
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Mave said:
leigh1050 said:
Why cant the parents walk the little fkers to school? Might be a few less fat kids about!
My mother only took me to school and picked me up on my first day of primary school.After that I used to meet a couple of mates and walk.Until I started secondary then I got the bus.
You walked to school without supervision when you were 4 years old?
I did so from the age of 6 , although there were various known places i could seek assistance if therewas an issue ( family friends etc)

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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BHML said:
There is a road near my son's school which is a cul-de-sac and it has "residents only parking" sign at the road entrance. There are a number of marked bays, but no additional signage (other than the main sign at the road entrance). There are also no resident parking permits, etc in operation. Anyone can park there during school pick up times and whilst there are traffic wardens on the main road, I have never known of anyone being fined for parking in the cul-de-sac. But as you might imagine it has led to some unpleasant exchanges between residents and parents dropping off/picking up their kids from school.

From a legal perspective is the "residents only parking" legally enforceable?
If the road is a private road then anyone parking there without permission is trespassing. It is hard, however, to prevent selfish people from acting selfishly, and many seem to think that they can park wherever they like.

Randomthoughts

917 posts

132 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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konark said:
It never ceases to amaze me that people who buy a house near a school seem to get upset by parents dropping their kids off and parking for a few minutes.
Parking, or abandoning your piece of st Chelsea tractor across people's driveways and in the middle of major roads so your unintelligent drain on society offspring don't have to walk for more than 30 seconds?

rlw

3,321 posts

236 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Mave said:
You walked to school without supervision when you were 4 years old?
And me, from 5. How the fk else was I going to get there? We didn't have a car and my parents worked.

Derek Smith

45,514 posts

247 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Randomthoughts said:
Parking, or abandoning your piece of st Chelsea tractor across people's driveways and in the middle of major roads so your unintelligent drain on society offspring don't have to walk for more than 30 seconds?
I was walking my grandson home from school. I was playing a little game from a book series he enjoyed: that's not me car, its [for instance] wheels are too big. (You have to have grandkids.)

The footway was bocked by a 4x4, forcing us, including children, to use the road.

I said: That's not my car, granddad wouldn't park so selfishly just as the woman immediately in front, well within hearing, got in the car.

One woman parked her car in the drive of a house. That's in the drive, blocking in a van.

The justification for such behaviour is often 'it's only five minutes' but then if they'd started just two minutes earlier they could - radical idea alert - park further away and walk the few yards extra.

That said, having a house within walking distance of a school, and in this case without having to cross any road, is a major positive.