Drink -drive limit lowered

Drink -drive limit lowered

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Gafferjim

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1,335 posts

265 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/soft-drinks-onl...

This is coming in for Scotland, but how long before England follows?

Edited by Gafferjim on Wednesday 19th November 10:50

nutsytvr

570 posts

198 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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But why can't these politicians tell the truth? They are all very quick yo tell us that the new, lower limits, are the same France but they always omit yhe fact that at 50 in France you get a fine. No ban until 80. The news people never pick up on this and never challenge them.

And before I get loads of abuse, I actually agree with lowering the limit. I just want more honesty from the politicos, which I agree is very unlikely.

Paul

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

132 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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I agree with this lowering and think it should be UK wide. The current limit simply fools too many people into believing they can drink a pint or two and drive safely. It is well established that even one pint significantly impairs driving ability.

nutsytvr said:
But why can't these politicians tell the truth? They are all very quick yo tell us that the new, lower limits, are the same France but they always omit yhe fact that at 50 in France you get a fine. No ban until 80. The news people never pick up on this and never challenge them.

And before I get loads of abuse, I actually agree with lowering the limit. I just want more honesty from the politicos, which I agree is very unlikely.

Paul
That is a quibble over a minor detail, along with Malta we still have the highest limit in Europe.


nutsytvr

570 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Martin4x4 said:
That is a quibble over a minor detail, along with Malta we still have the highest limit in Europe.
so you consider lying politicians to be a minor detail? Its the same when it comes to road tolls. Again they quote France but overlook the fact that there is no ved in France. And how does lowering the limit end confusion? There will still be the idiots who dont know, or dont care, that one drink could put them over the limit. Nil by mouth is the only true, no confusion, option.
if you read my post i did say that i agree with lower limits.
paul

jake19831

11 posts

112 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't really drink if you even have one drink.

Pit Pony

8,557 posts

121 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I think 3 or 4 pints and a bit of a smoke of weed, and maybe a couple of tablets of E should be the limit. I mean, some of the drivers around where I live are very obviously overdosed on something and they still manage to survive.

nataliezac

1 posts

112 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Drink and drive is very dabgerous thinf. It is harm to ourself and to the public. it would damage our life and our vehicle too.

bobby joylove

19 posts

112 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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My concern would be the morning or day after a night out on the sauce. I have never intentionally gone out to the pub and drove after one pint let alone a skin full.

I don't reckon I have been over but not sure I could be 100% certain I was always under the limit before driving next day. Even though the level of intent is different and you feel no ill effects, if you are just a tiny bit over the new limit next morning it's a big issue. Particularly after some knob has run into the back of you at a junction and the law prosecutes you the same way as some git staggering into his car at 2am three times the legal limit.

Leave the permitted level were it is in my opinion.


deltashad

6,731 posts

197 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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Thats the problem though, the day after, so you have to think about how much you drink the night before. There are many countries which have the lower limit but the penalties in the uk are much worse.
Other countries also have different penalties depending on the amount of alcohol in your system. This I feel is a much better way to police the issue.

noble12345

362 posts

216 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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The only reason Alcohol isnt a Class A/B drug is because Gov. can tax it. They dont care about people becoming addicted, ruining families, allready overworked Hospitals filling up with teenagers dying from organ failure, mental illness, more crime. they just want our TAX.

What i find truly disgusting about politicians is that although we cant drive and drink.. THEY think its perfectly fine to have a TAX FREE BAR in parliment that WE have to subsidise! Now i cant think of anything more important you shouldnt do when under the influence of a drug than running a country! Just another example of "Do as we say, not as we do". Drug use while at work might explain why they are so hillariously brazen in believing that we care about any of their lies.

I believe in no drinking and driving, but there should be a limit to save people from the morning after, or in case you eat some mince pies at christmas and run out of milk, or heaven forbid.. you get hallucinations about weapons of mass destruction and start a huge war.

BritishRacinGrin

24,700 posts

160 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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jake19831 said:
I'm a firm believer that you shouldn't really drink if you even have one drink.
Have you been driving?

Locknut

653 posts

137 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Seems to be the usual stampede to get onto the high moral ground, or is it the moral high ground?

Foppo

2,344 posts

124 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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No excuse I have been guilty driving over the limit.I's easy done a few pints or a drop of whiskey a few glasses of wine.I've stopped drinking alcohol,don't miss it to be honest.Ferrying the gran daughter around did it for me.

Tunku

7,703 posts

228 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Foppo said:
No excuse I have been guilty driving over the limit.I's easy done a few pints or a drop of whiskey a few glasses of wine.I've stopped drinking alcohol,don't miss it to be honest.Ferrying the gran daughter around did it for me.
Cirrhosis did it for me biggrin

Sussex2

10 posts

143 months

Tuesday 24th February 2015
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Sure as eggs is eggs once the election is done and dusted the limit will reduce.
In most EU countries it is already much lower and there are random road block for drink/drugs. I've been on a bus in Spain and the driver was required to hop in the back of the van and do a test; not one of the pax on the bus thought it remarkable.
It's true you don't get a ban for a small excess but it will depend on various other factors as well; speed and condition of the car being a couple.
I live in Spain and drive there a lot of course and actually quite like that the roads are more heavily policed.
In addition to policing the boys in blue, or green as they often are there, assist drivers and if there are two one will generally have a fair bit of para medic type training.

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Monday 16th March 2015
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Sounds just like the gun, knife, dangerous dogs, laws to me.

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd April 2015
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Locknut said:
Seems to be the usual stampede to get onto the high moral ground, or is it the moral high ground?
....It's a stupid British pastime these days.......Oh, for those faraway days of common sense !

Toaster

2,939 posts

193 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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One pint is probably more insignificant than a person who is texting, taken a drug (legal or illegal) have stepped in to car after an argument or suffering from a stressful incident. What about tired shift workers or very long drives through europe to catch the ferry?

The list goes on and on

exitwound

1,090 posts

180 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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This new rule is killing the eateries and restuarants as they rely upon alcohol mark up to boost their profits.

..and yet, there are some really good zero alcohol beers out there that aren't being offered on sale to the drinking diners. I'm not much of a drinker, but I REALLY, REALLY, miss a pint of Cobra with my curry!! Ever tried low alcohol Cobra?? Its crap!!

Why aren't the retailers and supermarkets taking advanteg of this??

Check here..

http://www.11points.com/Food-Drink/11_Non-Alcoholi...


Don

28,377 posts

284 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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I don't agree with lowering the limit at all.

80mg is working fine. If it ain't broke there's no need to fix it.

The 80mg limit means if you drive drunk you can be arrested and your licence taken away. It also means you can have a pint with the chaps of a Friday evening after work and drive home after safe in the knowledge you are participating in a great British tradition and are doing nothing illegal.

At 50mg you can't have that pint. Seems wrong? Does to me...