Griffith Parts List?

[Plan B]

Hey Paul that looks really good and great that you have put some structure into it. I'm not familiar with github - can you disable delete privileges for normal users as a precaution?

[Pete Mac]

seaside said:

For now I created a github account and a folder structure
Anyone interested should be able to find it here: https://github.com/seaside65/TVR-Griffith

top level folders are:
Maintenance Procedures
Manuals
Parts

Each is broken down by category and I added some manuals into the "Manuals" section under the likes of "Gearbox/T-5" and a T-5 rebuild procedure in the same sub-folder under "Maintenance Procedures".

Still learning how this works so let me know if something doesn't seem right.

Paul, you are a star. I will have a look on this tomorrow when I've got a bit more time. I doubt I have anything more than anybody else but this is a long term project so let's build up the knowledge. I will also invite Paul Cangialosi (my thread on gearbox rebuild) to contribute to the gearbox section.

Fantastic

Pete

[seaside]

having played around a bit I am not sure github is the right place for this.
the basic membership is free to use but it may be overcomplicated in some ways for everyone to contribute.
We can try it for now but I will keep looking for alternatives.
I was hoping to find a free SharePoint site or even perhaps leverage a google drive with google docs or something similar but so far not much luck...
If anyone else has any good ideas for this please shout!

[seaside]

Mr Jenks said:

I doubt the club would do anything on the parts supply front, are they going to be able to supply anything not already out there with the various suppliers and specialists?

Hi Dave. I don't think we were looking for the club to supply anything but having a place to host an area where manuals, alternative parts lists, etc. could be made available for reference by the TVR community would be very useful. There was also possibly a thought that they might have been looking to do something like this already...

[V8 GRF]

The club is more than likely to be happy to host this.

The Chimaera pages have already been handed over to the TVRCC and the content is currently being transferred, so a similar resource for the Griffith is not a million miles different in most areas. Makes sense.

[PeteGriff]

I am in support of the TVRCC hosting a 'repository' for all things Griffith. I must add, from a personal perspective I am very happy being a member of the TVRCC; our local Mid-Essex Group is very active and provides a venue and gathering point for us TVR enthusiasts, without the local club I would not have made the many good TVR friends I have.

I know some folk mention the MG club and them producing the 'not available' parts for the members but, what we have got to remember is that most TVR's (less so from Tuscan onwards) used other manufacturers engines, gearboxes etc., even MG! So any remanufacture of parts by the associated other clubs does help the TVR fraternity. All it needs is a collation of data and information to identify where to find parts.

There is also I believe a tendency by some of the TVR parts outlets to charge what I believe to be excessive prices for basic parts. An example of this recently for me was door switches (courtesy light switches) - I refused to pay the standard £15 to £17 each and did a little research, finding that they are a Vauxhall Cavalier, Astra, Belmont part and also a Lotus Elise S1, believe it or not a Lotus outlet had them for £4.85 each! I bought 4 and only paid £2.50 postage. SO if Lotus can do their parts at reasonable prices why do TVR outlets charge what appears to be excessive prices. Also from the Lotus outlet were the indicator and wiper stalk switches at very reasonable prices.

Let's get links and source references onto the TVRCC site with price comparisons, maybe we will see a gradual reduction for basic parts as the outlets realise people will buy from elsewhere (Lotus for instance). Another part which infuriates me is rear lights - why pay £90+ from TVR outlets when you can get OEM Vauxhall for less than £20 each.

So, as a member I am willing to share my knowledge and information with others for the betterment and continued maintenance of our cars.

All the best, Pete

[seaside]

V8 GRF said:

The club is more than likely to be happy to host this.

The Chimaera pages have already been handed over to the TVRCC and the content is currently being transferred, so a similar resource for the Griffith is not a million miles different in most areas. Makes sense.

Thanks for the comment and update David.

I agree with Pete. I started this topic looking for a spare part register for the Griff precisely for the reason that Pete mentioned.
I am happy to help create one, or work out how to host one, even design a parts database etc. if necessary but would be great if the Club have the knowledge and resources to start and host it and allow folks to contribute.
I suppose my only concern would be if the Club keep it to Club members only.
If I were running TVRCC I would potentially see this as a way for the club to attract or retain members. As a non club member based outside of the UK for the time being I would prefer it be an open resource contributed to by anyone who wishes to and has relevant information for the benefit of all TVR Griff owners worldwide....

[Pete Mac]

seaside said:

Thanks for the comment and update David.

I agree with Pete. I started this topic looking for a spare part register for the Griff precisely for the reason that Pete mentioned.
I am happy to help create one, or work out how to host one, even design a parts database etc. if necessary but would be great if the Club have the knowledge and resources to start and host it and allow folks to contribute.
I suppose my only concern would be if the Club keep it to Club members only.
If I were running TVRCC I would potentially see this as a way for the club to attract or retain members. As a non club member based outside of the UK for the time being I would prefer it be an open resource contributed to by anyone who wishes to and has relevant information for the benefit of all TVR Griff owners worldwide....

And I also agree with both Pete and Paul. Perhaps I didn't put enough effort into the club but I did find there wasn't a lot in there for me, it basically had a bunch of nice pictures, a round up of what all the clubs had been doing in the last period and then a bunch of adverts (perhaps the most interesting part).

I happen to be a guy who sits in an office all day long (admittedly in Kazakhstan) but I do like to get my hands dirty, I like to do as much of the work on the cars myself, even if it is challenging - that's my hobby. I also appreciate that there are those out there who just want to get in their TVRs and drive and are happy to pay the costs of having someone else maintain their cars and that's fine.

I also think there is a place for the parts suppliers but I do object to paying their very high prices, I am always looking for alternative sources.

I would be happy to re-join the TVRCC and try and influence their direction from within.

For the moment though, let's get the knowledge and then let's make it available to the TVRCC on the understnding it should be available to non-members as well - my main driver is to help keep these cars on the road and help everybody really enjoy them. Pete

[Hoover.]

To save a lot of work why don't you combine forces with the chimps for the bits that are common to both cars, and then split for the rest ?

[Pete Mac]

Hoover. said:

To save a lot of work why don't you combine forces with the chimps for the bits that are common to both cars, and then split for the rest ?

I'm all for it. Pete

[Pete Mac]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Anthony, PM me, Pete

[PeteGriff]

Hoover. said:

To save a lot of work why don't you combine forces with the chimps for the bits that are common to both cars, and then split for the rest ?

Great idea, a lot of stuff is common to both. Quite a lot of the parts I have developed have gone to Chim owners also. When time permits over the Winter period I am more the happy to collate all my data and provide it for the use of all interested parties.

Dave (V8 GRF), let's communicate as to how I can provide info for the TVRCC?

Regards, Pete

[EGB]

PeteGriff said:

Great idea, a lot of stuff is common to both. Quite a lot of the parts I have developed have gone to Chim owners also. When time permits over the Winter period I am more the happy to collate all my data and provide it for the use of all interested parties.

Dave (V8 GRF), let's communicate as to how I can provide info for the TVRCC?

Regards, Pete

Good idea. My 85 mb collated info A-Z is available. Hope your brake servo mod is available some time Pete. A nice Christmas presi for us Griff's and Chims. This Christmas or next.;)

[PeteGriff]

EGB said:

.... Hope your brake servo mod is available some time Pete. A nice Christmas presi for us Griff's and Chims. This Christmas or next.;)

Hi EGB, beleive it or not my own Griff and the development of the new dash took up a lot of time this year. I still intend to pick up on the 'brake servo' project in the near future though! There always seems too many things to do and not enough time to fit it all in!! Regards, Pete

[Barreti]

V8 GRF said:

The club is more than likely to be happy to host this.

The Chimaera pages have already been handed over to the TVRCC and the content is currently being transferred, so a similar resource for the Griffith is not a million miles different in most areas. Makes sense.

The 'club' should be bloody ashamed of themselves for not picking this up ages ago when TheGriffithPages went arse over end.

As far as I am concerned, putting this in the hands of the TVRCC is very much the wrong thing to do. It puts the information behind closed doors and far from attracting people in I think it will put them off.
I've already seen comments recently along the lines of "we have that and if you can get it if you join the TVRCC" when somebody asked for help, which irritated me no end.

We are a small group who should be helping each other keep the cars on the road. Not an elite club you need to be a member of just to find out which brake pads are compatible with the Griff.

I'll help out any way I can to help anyone get this off the ground. But it needs to be open to everyone.
A simple wiki would probably do for the alternative parts list wouldn't it?

[EGB]

PeteGriff said:

Hi EGB, beleive it or not my own Griff and the development of the new dash took up a lot of time this year. I still intend to pick up on the 'brake servo' project in the near future though! There always seems too many things to do and not enough time to fit it all in!! Regards, Pete

Thanks Pete. Good. Just fully dismantled my Stepper. A good clean and a light oiling (quality bicycle oil) made a noticeable difference to more even running at start.

[Pete Mac]

Barreti said:

The 'club' should be bloody ashamed of themselves for not picking this up ages ago when TheGriffithPages went arse over end.

As far as I am concerned, putting this in the hands of the TVRCC is very much the wrong thing to do. It puts the information behind closed doors and far from attracting people in I think it will put them off.
I've already seen comments recently along the lines of "we have that and if you can get it if you join the TVRCC" when somebody asked for help, which irritated me no end.

We are a small group who should be helping each other keep the cars on the road. Not an elite club you need to be a member of just to find out which brake pads are compatible with the Griff.

I'll help out any way I can to help anyone get this off the ground. But it needs to be open to everyone.
A simple wiki would probably do for the alternative parts list wouldn't it?

Ian, I don't disagree with you either. Although some contributors have said that the TVRCC should/would/could host this, I note that nobody from TVRCC committee have actually contributed to this thread - has anybody contacted them?

Biggest mistake to kill a good idea is to expect someone else to do it, in that way nothing ever gets done. Does anybody want to volunteer contacting TVRCC to see what there take is on this (if any) before we assume somebody else is going to take on this work?

I would say we should just get on with this and bring others along with us, rather than expect them to do the work for us.

Pete

[5.0ltr]

Pete Mac said:

Ian, I don't disagree with you either. Although some contributors have said that the TVRCC should/would/could host this, I note that nobody from TVRCC committee have actually contributed to this thread - has anybody contacted them?


Pete

Really? V8GRF ...

[V8 GRF]

Barreti said:

The 'club' should be bloody ashamed of themselves for not picking this up ages ago when TheGriffithPages went arse over end.

As far as I am concerned, putting this in the hands of the TVRCC is very much the wrong thing to do. It puts the information behind closed doors and far from attracting people in I think it will put them off.
I've already seen comments recently along the lines of "we have that and if you can get it if you join the TVRCC" when somebody asked for help, which irritated me no end.

We are a small group who should be helping each other keep the cars on the road. Not an elite club you need to be a member of just to find out which brake pads are compatible with the Griff.

I'll help out any way I can to help anyone get this off the ground. But it needs to be open to everyone.
A simple wiki would probably do for the alternative parts list wouldn't it?

Actually, the person who should be 'ashamed' here is Simon.

I sent him several emails asking him for the content of 'The Griffith Pages' when it first went down. He ignored my emails but I saw him posting in the PC area asking for help on fixing the issue.

He obviously got some help but it came back with most of the data missing. I asked him again on several occasions to let me have the data so we could host it on the TVRCC site( I guaranteed that the data would stay outside the members firewall)

Like it or not and for some reason you obviously don't, the club IS the best place for this sort of information to be hosted for the sake of continuity. The failure of and subsequent loss of much of the information on The Griffith Pages is testament to what happens when someone loses interest.

I'm not a supporter of everything disappearing behind the TVRCC members firewall, because as you rightly say it's important information. I can also see the other argument that for that reason folk should be members to help support the club, the TVRCC doesn't have huge financial support from a manufacturer like the POC does.

Everything is done on a volunteer basis and there are only so many hours in the day so it's just not possible to do everything that needs to be done. Fact of life!

I continually see this 'them and us' BS rolled out all the time and it's ridiculous to call the club 'elitist'. It's far from elitist as it's a club run by members for members and anyone can join whether car owner or not. There's no paid board of administrators, there's no paid team producing the magazine or running events it's all grass roots with support from the committee when requested/needed.

[V8 GRF]

5.0ltr said:

Pete Mac said:

Ian, I don't disagree with you either. Although some contributors have said that the TVRCC should/would/could host this, I note that nobody from TVRCC committee have actually contributed to this thread - has anybody contacted them?


Pete

Really? V8GRF ...

Thanks Bob....

I'd already emailed PeteGriff when I first saw this thread.