996 Turbo disappointment after M3. Am I missing something?
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VladD said:
..to a different question! Particularly if you have children and want a subtle, dependable, year-round DD with a hyperspace button. Most fun I have had on the commute was in my £1k s13 200SX on cut springs and running too much boost, much like all the lovers of the 'tegs and elises and trevors that have been posting up. But the target 911 Turbo owner is not interested in this nonsense.
Look into my eyes. These are not the droids you are looking for.
VladD said:
To what? It's a 'bitsa' Cayman in a garish colour. Tiring to drive as a daily, no rear seats if you need to occasionally transport kids and unlikely to retain its value as well as s 996 turbo. The beauty of the turbo is it can be used, gives great performance, without too much drama and it's relatively understated.
If you like bland , straight forward point and shoot performance then the 996 T is for you.
It's a very fast , no BS supercar. It will do things all other cars in this class fail to do. It's an all rounder, but the only thing it will challenge is your licence.
Too expensive to run on track as well as it is too heavy.
If you want drama this is not the car for you/ And the 4 wheel drive should tell you that immediately.
A cracking car for useability. However for those seeking excitement , other than the straight line zing. Look elsewhere.
Turbo cars are in the norm very bland. Apart from the GT2. This where the action is. To be able to drive this car quickly takes some balls. Of which I believe most GT2 owners on here even don't have
. All polishers from what I can see 
It's a very fast , no BS supercar. It will do things all other cars in this class fail to do. It's an all rounder, but the only thing it will challenge is your licence.
Too expensive to run on track as well as it is too heavy.
If you want drama this is not the car for you/ And the 4 wheel drive should tell you that immediately.
A cracking car for useability. However for those seeking excitement , other than the straight line zing. Look elsewhere.
Turbo cars are in the norm very bland. Apart from the GT2. This where the action is. To be able to drive this car quickly takes some balls. Of which I believe most GT2 owners on here even don't have
. All polishers from what I can see Se7enheaven said:
If you like bland , straight forward point and shoot performance then the 996 T is for you.
It's a very fast , no BS supercar. It will do things all other cars in this class fail to do. It's an all rounder, but the only thing it will challenge is your licence.
Too expensive to run on track as well as it is too heavy.
If you want drama this is not the car for you/ And the 4 wheel drive should tell you that immediately.
A cracking car for useability. However for those seeking excitement , other than the straight line zing. Look elsewhere.
Turbo cars are in the norm very bland. Apart from the GT2. This where the action is. To be able to drive this car quickly takes some balls. Of which I believe most GT2 owners on here even don't have. All polishers from what I can see
Some of the above is true.It's a very fast , no BS supercar. It will do things all other cars in this class fail to do. It's an all rounder, but the only thing it will challenge is your licence.
Too expensive to run on track as well as it is too heavy.
If you want drama this is not the car for you/ And the 4 wheel drive should tell you that immediately.
A cracking car for useability. However for those seeking excitement , other than the straight line zing. Look elsewhere.
Turbo cars are in the norm very bland. Apart from the GT2. This where the action is. To be able to drive this car quickly takes some balls. Of which I believe most GT2 owners on here even don't have
. All polishers from what I can see Talking from experience and as a ex GT2 owner a sorted 6T is far from boring.
In standard form maybe a bit sterile,
Suspension/Pipe/Good map and they're epic cars, ive had that many 911's so can qualify the attributes of a fettled one, the only car i preferred in my CV was the GT3, but it just wasn't practical and this is where the 6T shines as it does everything.
BertBert said:
All about personal taste.
Bert
I hate to rant on about this but, No, dammit! Its about what you want from your car. Of course the GT3 is a wonderful thing, nobody anywhere really disagrees. But it is the wrong car as a year round daily driver for a breeder. Bert
And so, last week after the school drop off, when I was enjoying the just-scary-enough squirm and shimmy of a 400hp 911 thru all four wheels on a soaking wet road, I suspect that the majority of the 996 GT3 owners were in their 2 litre turbodiesels with the rest of the world.
So, no disappointment here.
Edited by Johnny G Pipe on Sunday 23 November 11:39
Johnny G Pipe said:
BertBert said:
All about personal taste.
Bert
I hate to rant on about this but, No, dammit! Its about what you want from your car. Of course the GT3 is a wonderful thing, nobody anywhere really disagrees. But it is the wrong car as a year round daily driver for a breeder. Bert
And so, last week after the school drop off, when I was enjoying the just-scary-enough squirm and shimmy of a 400hp 911 thru all four wheels on a soaking wet road, I suspect that the majority of the 996 GT3 owners were in their 2 litre turbodiesels with the rest of the world.
So, no disappointment here.
Edited by Johnny G Pipe on Sunday 23 November 11:39
Come on fella make the most of that car
How important is the 4 seater thing for you? Sounds like it is a key factor - who wants to take the weekday car since the kids want to come with you too on the weekend after all...? So that is then one tough challenge for a practical, responsive, tactile and thrilling supercar (and one that doesn't have a 1.6 Diesel, steel wheels variant ;-) ). This is still a gap in the market IMHO - the Panamera fills it dynamically well but is despised for its looks, Ferrari FF is £££, Maserati Quatroporte (poor residuals), Aston Rapide (torque converter box) so its a tough one. I went for arguably the best looking 4 door of those with a stunning sublime goosebump inducing NOISY V12 - now add a PDK box and make it a bit smaller and it would be perfect as its dynamics are quite superb! So I guess my point is does that magical 'ticks all boxes'4 seater actually exist and, if not, maybe you need to get a GT3 (somehow) and get seats and belts put in the back - this was my solution till Porsche skimped on the con rod bolts and that dream sunk. HTH!
Johnny G Pipe said:
I hate to rant on about this but, No, dammit! Its about what you want from your car. Of course the GT3 is a wonderful thing, nobody anywhere really disagrees. But it is the wrong car as a year round daily driver for a breeder.
And so, last week after the school drop off, when I was enjoying the just-scary-enough squirm and shimmy of a 400hp 911 thru all four wheels on a soaking wet road, I suspect that the majority of the 996 GT3 owners were in their 2 litre turbodiesels with the rest of the world.
So, no disappointment here.
So I'll disagree. The GT3 was the perfect year round daily driver for me. I'm not interested in the shimmy of 400bhp through all 4 wheels in the wet. You are. Personal taste about what you want from your sports car. I didn't even drive the GT3 particularly fast, but it was the most enjoyable sports car I have ever owned and ever expect to own.And so, last week after the school drop off, when I was enjoying the just-scary-enough squirm and shimmy of a 400hp 911 thru all four wheels on a soaking wet road, I suspect that the majority of the 996 GT3 owners were in their 2 litre turbodiesels with the rest of the world.
So, no disappointment here.
Edited by Johnny G Pipe on Sunday 23 November 11:39
Bert
Two Words - Drivers Training.
I drive a 996 Turbo manual and I can always get the car to dance around me even with PSM staying on. PSM is definitely not fool proof in the 996 generation. I have certainly had mine sideways enough to need about 1/2 of a corrective lock with the PSM on.
However, it is much harder to get the car to dance around me on my old 996 Turbo X50 Tip due to longer lag from the bigger turbos and the torque converter auto.
What is the exact spec. of your 996 Turbo?
I drive a 996 Turbo manual and I can always get the car to dance around me even with PSM staying on. PSM is definitely not fool proof in the 996 generation. I have certainly had mine sideways enough to need about 1/2 of a corrective lock with the PSM on.
However, it is much harder to get the car to dance around me on my old 996 Turbo X50 Tip due to longer lag from the bigger turbos and the torque converter auto.
What is the exact spec. of your 996 Turbo?
hygt2 said:
Two Words - Drivers Training.
I drive a 996 Turbo manual and I can always get the car to dance around me even with PSM staying on. PSM is definitely not fool proof in the 996 generation. I have certainly had mine sideways enough to need about 1/2 of a corrective lock with the PSM on.
However, it is much harder to get the car to dance around me on my old 996 Turbo X50 Tip due to longer lag from the bigger turbos and the torque converter auto.
What is the exact spec. of your 996 Turbo?
Trouble it, I'm not sure that sideways in a 996TT is what many people count as fun. You may do, I wouldn't!I drive a 996 Turbo manual and I can always get the car to dance around me even with PSM staying on. PSM is definitely not fool proof in the 996 generation. I have certainly had mine sideways enough to need about 1/2 of a corrective lock with the PSM on.
However, it is much harder to get the car to dance around me on my old 996 Turbo X50 Tip due to longer lag from the bigger turbos and the torque converter auto.
What is the exact spec. of your 996 Turbo?
BertBert said:
hygt2 said:
Two Words - Drivers Training.
I drive a 996 Turbo manual and I can always get the car to dance around me even with PSM staying on. PSM is definitely not fool proof in the 996 generation. I have certainly had mine sideways enough to need about 1/2 of a corrective lock with the PSM on.
However, it is much harder to get the car to dance around me on my old 996 Turbo X50 Tip due to longer lag from the bigger turbos and the torque converter auto.
What is the exact spec. of your 996 Turbo?
Trouble it, I'm not sure that sideways in a 996TT is what many people count as fun. You may do, I wouldn't!I drive a 996 Turbo manual and I can always get the car to dance around me even with PSM staying on. PSM is definitely not fool proof in the 996 generation. I have certainly had mine sideways enough to need about 1/2 of a corrective lock with the PSM on.
However, it is much harder to get the car to dance around me on my old 996 Turbo X50 Tip due to longer lag from the bigger turbos and the torque converter auto.
What is the exact spec. of your 996 Turbo?
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