PSCO's vist about our dogs

[wc98]

Efbe said:

I think the issue is quite obvious.

OP is one of those annoying neighbours with noisy dogs barking constantly throughout the day.

In the OP's situation I would be looking at stopping my dogs from barking when in the garden so much.

how would you approach this ? i have two dogs, a father and son. both been through the same puppy and adult training classes,i think i have heard the older dog bark once in it,s entire life,the younger one runs at the fence snarling if anyone walks past ,which i really do not like. he will stop and come in when called, but it is not nice. it may be because he cannot see who or what is walking past ,the fence is 6 feet high.

currently the older one is sitting at my feet shivering in fear as some cretin is letting fireworks off nearby , which is a far bigger pain in the arse than a barking dog ,imo.

[Motorrad]

PCSO?= close door and forget about it once they identify themselves.

Don't delay any plans you may have regarding a visit from the Police. Just live your life and be selective who you engage with at your door. Personally I don't speak to any unsolicited callers.

Edited by Motorrad on Saturday 22 November 17:58

[herewego]

wc98 said:

Efbe said:

I think the issue is quite obvious.

OP is one of those annoying neighbours with noisy dogs barking constantly throughout the day.

In the OP's situation I would be looking at stopping my dogs from barking when in the garden so much.

how would you approach this ? i have two dogs, a father and son. both been through the same puppy and adult training classes,i think i have heard the older dog bark once in it,s entire life,the younger one runs at the fence snarling if anyone walks past ,which i really do not like. he will stop and come in when called, but it is not nice. it may be because he cannot see who or what is walking past ,the fence is 6 feet high.

currently the older one is sitting at my feet shivering in fear as some cretin is letting fireworks off nearby , which is a far bigger pain in the arse than a barking dog ,imo.

I would go back to the class and ask for help in dealing with this specific problem.

[supermono]

The trouble is people living in housing estates with poky little gardens and houses stupidly and selfishly wanting to exercise their god given right to own a couple of dogs. They don't care that the beasts are bored out of their skulls and destroying the otherwise peaceful neighbourhood with their barking.

Unfortunately the kind of person who does this is also the kind of person who is adamant that their ignorance is everyone else's problem.

[pinchmeimdreamin]

supermono said:

The trouble is people living in housing estates with poky little gardens and houses stupidly and selfishly wanting to exercise their god given right to own a couple of dogs. They don't care that the beasts are bored out of their skulls and destroying the otherwise peaceful neighbourhood with their barking.

Unfortunately the kind of person who does this is also the kind of person who is adamant that their ignorance is everyone else's problem.

Yes because everyone knows only rich people with big houses should be allowed to own more than one pet.

[Bigends]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

supermono said:

The trouble is people living in housing estates with poky little gardens and houses stupidly and selfishly wanting to exercise their god given right to own a couple of dogs. They don't care that the beasts are bored out of their skulls and destroying the otherwise peaceful neighbourhood with their barking.

Unfortunately the kind of person who does this is also the kind of person who is adamant that their ignorance is everyone else's problem.

Yes because everyone knows only rich people with big houses should be allowed to own more than one pet.

Own them by all means - just keep the buggers quiet

Edited by Bigends on Sunday 23 November 12:02

[Who me ?]

Jasandjules said:

[quote=Who me ?] I put dog in car as cat walked passed-dog got out and chased cat -screams of vicious dangerous dog .Council dog warden visited and saw the truth.

With the new law that could result in your dog being destroyed in future. Suggest you take a LOT more care.

J& J, I do ,as dog warden suggested. But she saw the truth, malicious vicious complaint. Became more apparent, when I told her that dog had been threatened with violence as I'd used water to deter her tiddles from coming in my garden.Cat in question is a she ,with full reproductive bits. It pees in my garden ,and hey presto , there's a stream of Toms coverig that ,and I can't open windows in summer for either the smell or fear of a cat trying to get in and perhaps fleeing after a dog attack.
But there's a lot more involved than my dog chasing her cat. That was a veiled threat to try to persuade me not to dig too deep into their other activities, which I might suggest HMRC might like to look at.

[The Mad Monk]

singlecoil said:

There's an old proverb that says "there's none so deaf as the owner of a barking dog"

I have never heard that proverb before.

Are you sure that it's not a new proverb that you have just made up?

[singlecoil]

The Mad Monk said:

singlecoil said:

There's an old proverb that says "there's none so deaf as the owner of a barking dog"

I have never heard that proverb before.

Are you sure that it's not a new proverb that you have just made up?

Well, I've been using it for a long time, and I have never had cause to doubt its inherent veracity, quite the reverse in fact.

[Jasandjules]

[quote=Who me ?]
J& J, I do ,as dog warden suggested. But she saw the truth, malicious vicious complaint.
[/quote]

Nope, a cat being chased by an off-lead dog in a public place is not a malicious complaint.

You got away lightly there, if she'd called the police I think your dog may not be here, or something equally serious. I know dogs who have severe sanctions imposed for less (including one where a neighbour let the dog out of the garden then reported it, I kid you not - so on that basis I'd also suggest getting a good lock for your gate).

Anyway, OP, any news? Did the PCSO turn up, drink a cuppa and leave?

[FurryExocet]

Jasandjules said:

Nope, a cat being chased by an off-lead dog in a public place is not a malicious complaint.

You got away lightly there, if she'd called the police I think your dog may not be here, or something equally serious. I know dogs who have severe sanctions imposed for less (including one where a neighbour let the dog out of the garden then reported it, I kid you not - so on that basis I'd also suggest getting a good lock for your gate).

Anyway, OP, any news? Did the PCSO turn up, drink a cuppa and leave?

Have you read the thread?

[Red Devil]

Jasandjules said:

Who me said:

I put dog in car as cat walked passed-dog got out and chased cat -screams of vicious dangerous dog .Council dog warden visited and saw the truth.

With the new law that could result in your dog being destroyed in future. Suggest you take a LOT more care.

Most people are blissfully unaware that the law was changed earlier this year
http://www.nawt.org.uk/advice/changes-dangerous-do...

Note that this only applies to E&W. Scotland has its own, differently titled, legislation which has been in force since 2010.

The change is also known as 'Jade's Law' - coroner's inquest verdict last month
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teenager-jade...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/my-animals-we...

Cathy Hyde, RSPCA Chief Inspector for Manchester, told the hearing in analysing dog attacks, behaviour was more important than breed, and behaviour was determined by the owner and the environment and way the animals were kept.

The case above was extreme but the point the Inspector made is highly relevant. It doesn't need to be anywhere near that level for a dog owner to find themselves on the wrong end of the law.

[Efbe]

herewego said:

wc98 said:

Efbe said:

I think the issue is quite obvious.

OP is one of those annoying neighbours with noisy dogs barking constantly throughout the day.

In the OP's situation I would be looking at stopping my dogs from barking when in the garden so much.

how would you approach this ? i have two dogs, a father and son. both been through the same puppy and adult training classes,i think i have heard the older dog bark once in it,s entire life,the younger one runs at the fence snarling if anyone walks past ,which i really do not like. he will stop and come in when called, but it is not nice. it may be because he cannot see who or what is walking past ,the fence is 6 feet high.

currently the older one is sitting at my feet shivering in fear as some cretin is letting fireworks off nearby , which is a far bigger pain in the arse than a barking dog ,imo.

I would go back to the class and ask for help in dealing with this specific problem.

never needed a class

positive reinforcement when they don't bark, and negative reinforcement (stern language) when they bark outside. If this needs a bit more then whichever one barks, bring them back inside immediately for 5 minutes (they tend not to have too long memories) then put that one back out.

IMO most training failures are from a lack of will, patience and tenacity.