OBDII (or similar) on bikes

[crofty1984]

'Allo, citizens of Biker Banter!
I was wondering if there's an OBD2-type thing for bikes? I've just bought a Bluetooth diagnostic thing for the car, I was wondering if there was a bike equivalent? Could be pretty cool mounting a smartphone on the dash for lots of extra info.
Dan

[BigHeartedTone]

Almost without exception I dont' believe there is - which is shame when you want to do data acquisition

[Yazza54]

Some have the facility to plug an OBD2 in. My old triumph TT 600 linked up to tune ecu with a OBD2 to USB lead, if that's the kinda thing you mean?

[bass gt3]

lots.

guzzidiag for guzzis and aprilias
tune boy or tune ecu for ktm triumph etc

problem is getting the software to operate as an app on a smart device and link to a comm unit to transmit from the ecu.
they're all designed to run on a laptop in a garage environment.
also, consider whether you actually want a plethora of information needlessly distracting you while you ride? is knowing the air temp of injection angle worth not seeing the car pulling out in front of you?

[Fleegle]

What the hell are you lot on about?

[Yazza54]

Fleegle said:

What the hell are you lot on about?

New fangled magic

[BigHeartedTone]

bass gt3 said:

lots.

guzzidiag for guzzis and aprilias
tune boy or tune ecu for ktm triumph etc

problem is getting the software to operate as an app on a smart device and link to a comm unit to transmit from the ecu.
they're all designed to run on a laptop in a garage environment.
also, consider whether you actually want a plethora of information needlessly distracting you while you ride? is knowing the air temp of injection angle worth not seeing the car pulling out in front of you?

Ah yes these exist but they are not a mandated standard as OBD2 is which makes it so useful.

[bass gt3]

BigHeartedTone said:

Ah yes these exist but they are not a mandated standard as OBD2 is which makes it so useful.

the question was OBDII type thing, not specific. To my knowledge no bike other than possibly BMW's (due to the car lineage) run true OBDII.
However many run proprietary Canbus so if you know what addresses and values correspond to what parameter and can find someone clever you might be able to create something

[Mr2Mike]

bass gt3 said:

the question was OBDII type thing, not specific. To my knowledge no bike other than possibly BMW's (due to the car lineage) run true OBDII.
However many run proprietary Canbus so if you know what addresses and values correspond to what parameter and can find someone clever you might be able to create something

An off-the-shelf ODB2 code reader seems to work fine with my Benelli (and therefore many Triumphs and some KTMs and Aprilias), though it needs an adapter as it's not an ODB2 connector.

[bass gt3]

Mr2Mike said:

bass gt3 said:

the question was OBDII type thing, not specific. To my knowledge no bike other than possibly BMW's (due to the car lineage) run true OBDII.
However many run proprietary Canbus so if you know what addresses and values correspond to what parameter and can find someone clever you might be able to create something

An off-the-shelf ODB2 code reader seems to work fine with my Benelli (and therefore many Triumphs and some KTMs and Aprilias), though it needs an adapter as it's not an ODB2 connector.

that's cool. problem is the many and some part. OBD2 is a standardised format and if even a single manufacturer (ktm for example) uses different formats between models it becomes a headache to implement. I thought the OP wanted real time data via a diagnostic port rather than codes read? perhaps i misunderstood.

[jasesapphy]

I have Bluetooth one and run android app on my BMW car I can try it in the triumph tomorrow?

[Mr2Mike]

bass gt3 said:

that's cool. problem is the many and some part. OBD2 is a standardised format and if even a single manufacturer (ktm for example) uses different formats between models it becomes a headache to implement. I thought the OP wanted real time data via a diagnostic port rather than codes read? perhaps i misunderstood.

The Live data feature works ok on mine as well as well. I'm a little surprised more modern bikes don't have at least some basic ODB2 compliance since the Sagem ECU in the bike I mentioned was original made sometime before 2002.

[HiFiHunter]

jasesapphy said:

I have Bluetooth one and run android app on my BMW car I can try it in the triumph tomorrow?

Sounds cool, can you point us to which one you have.
Got an old Scangauge 2 hooked up in car, useful for mpg etc, trip computer and reading errors codes. Nice dinky display box I can stick on dash. The LPG ECU of my car occasionally flags up a rich/lean mix error as it fools the main ECU, so dead handy.

[Schtum]

bass gt3 said:

To my knowledge no bike other than possibly BMW's (due to the car lineage) run true OBDII.

The diagnostic socket on BMW motorcycles isn't OBDII. There is, however, an aftermarket diagnostic tool in the form of the GS-911. This is the pukka version and there are also Chinese sourced rip-off versions. http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911

It's true that dealer diagnostic equipment, previously GT-1 and now ICOM, is used on both cars and motorcycles so it seems fair to assume that BMW Motorrad also use the OBDII protocol but with different hardware.

[rsv gone!]

As above, my Triumph has an obd2 port. I've used my cheap reader to read and clear codes before

[bass gt3]

Schtum said:

bass gt3 said:

To my knowledge no bike other than possibly BMW's (due to the car lineage) run true OBDII.

The diagnostic socket on BMW motorcycles isn't OBDII. There is, however, an aftermarket diagnostic tool in the form of the GS-911. This is the pukka version and there are also Chinese sourced rip-off versions. http://www.hexcode.co.za/products/gs-911

It's true that dealer diagnostic equipment, previously GT-1 and now ICOM, is used on both cars and motorcycles so it seems fair to assume that BMW Motorrad also use the OBDII protocol but with different hardware.

yeah I'm familiar with the GS-911 as a friend has one for his GS (funnily enough! ) hence my thoughts the bm's might use OBD2.
But it seems what's out there is limited to European bikes,going by Triumphs, KTM'S , Italian's save Ducati etc.
But the OP was asking about being able to display ecu functions on a smart phone via a bluetooth unit. Things like the GS -911 or similar readers hardly meet the requirements but Jaseapphy's app a d bluetooth seems to be close.
Only problem is the OP never stated what bike he'd like to put it onas it seems anything Euro anx you might be able whereas it seems anything Japanese or ROW won't wo