Numb nuts forgot to connect battery conditioner

Numb nuts forgot to connect battery conditioner

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3rtt

Original Poster:

943 posts

251 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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School boy error.

2102 V8V. Completely flat battery. Opened the door with manual key.

Do I :

1. Purchase battery charger and connect to battery behind the seat ?
2. Is it possible to get onto the boot to connect battery conditioner ?
3. Will the battery conditioner work in the centre console cigarette lighter ?
4. Anything else.

Thank you for your help.
Cheers
Ian

bigeckfaetherigs

115 posts

129 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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I had a similar problem earlier in the year when the wife disconnected the BC at the wall and then never plugged it back in again, came home from overseas to a flat battery but was still able to unlock the car. Called Greenflag and they jump started the car. Point to note though when jump starting the car is to switch every electrical item in the car on i.e. lights, radio, heating etc. Not sure why but the GF man told me so!! When my car did start some of the electrical functions were not working properly in particular the seats, but over the day everything started to work again. Hope this helps a bit.

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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3rtt said:
School boy error.

2102 V8V. Completely flat battery. Opened the door with manual key.

Do I :

1. Purchase battery charger and connect to battery behind the seat ?
2. Is it possible to get onto the boot to connect battery conditioner ?
3. Will the battery conditioner work in the centre console cigarette lighter ?
4. Anything else.

Thank you for your help.
Cheers
Ian
Had the same with a v12v. Could not get in boot. You can't charge via cabin cigarette lighter. Jump leads got us nowhere. Disconnected battery and put charger on but battery was not having it. Totally dead. Was going to replace it with the AM OEM but a Yuasu battery was half the price, and with more amps, and after checking with an AM mechanic fitted it. I think the extra few amps helped it start more quickly, and maybe because the original battery was -obviously- not at its best. The only challenge I had was getting my big frame behind the driver's seat. If your seat is electric you need to connect the new battery to the car terminals so you can move the seat forward. Replacing the battery is NOT straightforward as it is clamped down on its bottom edge lip so it can't just be lifted out. You have to remove the shelf frame then the front carpeted panel to get to it. All this assumes that your v8 is set up like my v12 was. Good luck!

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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By pure coincidence I just found this picture on my mobile...


DAMIT

341 posts

162 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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3rtt said:
School boy error.

2102 V8V. Completely flat battery. Opened the door with manual key.

Do I :

1. Purchase battery charger and connect to battery behind the seat ?
2. Is it possible to get onto the boot to connect battery conditioner ?
3. Will the battery conditioner work in the centre console cigarette lighter ?
4. Anything else.

Thank you for your help.
Cheers
Ian
It's my understanding that you can charge through the central console on the Vantage (Others have said they always trickle charge using this one, which helps them NOT driving off with it connected through the boot)

Also I believe there is a connection under the bonnet for jump starting/charging

Impasse

15,099 posts

240 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Don't forget there is a battery/power post in the engine bay.

3rtt

Original Poster:

943 posts

251 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Just ordered a CTEK MSX 10 charger conditioner. I don't need the car started straight away and hope this will have enough to wake the battery up and help it to full condition.

I don't really want to start pulling the battery out just yet.

Cheers
Ian

PlusOneToo

65 posts

122 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Hi 3rtt,
I have a 2013 V8V and I attach the battery conditioner in the engine bay. One terminal to the +ve terminal post which is protected via a black plastic flip up plastic cover and attache the -ve to any metal earthed point. It has to be said that I use this to trickle charge the battery not sure if it would be ok for large current or rapid charging flows.
Hope it helps

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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PlusOneToo said:
Hi 3rtt,
I have a 2013 V8V and I attach the battery conditioner in the engine bay. One terminal to the +ve terminal post which is protected via a black plastic flip up plastic cover and attache the -ve to any metal earthed point. It has to be said that I use this to trickle charge the battery not sure if it would be ok for large current or rapid charging flows.
Hope it helps
Is the battery behind the driver's seat on the v8v?

3rtt

Original Poster:

943 posts

251 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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cibble10 said:
PlusOneToo said:
Hi 3rtt,
I have a 2013 V8V and I attach the battery conditioner in the engine bay. One terminal to the +ve terminal post which is protected via a black plastic flip up plastic cover and attache the -ve to any metal earthed point. It has to be said that I use this to trickle charge the battery not sure if it would be ok for large current or rapid charging flows.
Hope it helps
Is the battery behind the driver's seat on the v8v?
Yes it is. If the battery does have to come out, it going to be fun trying to get the carbon electric seat forward enough.
I'm going to try the charger connected direct to the battery terminal first to see if it can work its 8 stage magic.
Cheers
Ian

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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3rtt said:
Yes it is. If the battery does have to come out, it going to be fun trying to get the carbon electric seat forward enough.
I'm going to try the charger connected direct to the battery terminal first to see if it can work its 8 stage magic.
Cheers
Ian
That is where I was heading so good luck with the direct charging!

The G Kid

562 posts

122 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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3rtt said:
Just ordered a CTEK MSX 10 charger conditioner. I don't need the car started straight away and hope this will have enough to wake the battery up and help it to full condition.

I don't really want to start pulling the battery out just yet.

Cheers
Ian
I have recently ordered and received the MSX 5.0. Seems like a good bit of a kit, but this morning I had the "Paddle Shifts Disabled" warning light come on which i've come to associate with low voltage on the battery. I'm pretty much convinced the battery is just on it's way out, after 20K miles of mostly short journey's (sub 30mins).

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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The G Kid said:
I have recently ordered and received the MSX 5.0. Seems like a good bit of a kit, but this morning I had the "Paddle Shifts Disabled" warning light come on which i've come to associate with low voltage on the battery. I'm pretty much convinced the battery is just on it's way out, after 20K miles of mostly short journey's (sub 30mins).
You might like my battery replacement suggestion earlier in the thread smile

The G Kid

562 posts

122 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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cibble10 said:
You might like my battery replacement suggestion earlier in the thread smile
I saw that, but will probably just get Jackson's to do it...........

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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The G Kid said:
I saw that, but will probably just get Jackson's to do it...........
That will be your Xmas bonus gone in one fell swoop wink I confess it was a chore to change the battery. If they want more than an hour's labour they are robbing you guv.

The G Kid

562 posts

122 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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cibble10 said:
That will be your Xmas bonus gone in one fell swoop wink I confess it was a chore to change the battery. If they want more than an hour's labour they are robbing you guv.
Jackson's robbing someone? I can't believe that...

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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The G Kid said:
Jackson's robbing someone? I can't believe that...
bandit

3rtt

Original Poster:

943 posts

251 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Well the CTEK MSX 10 arrived today. Connected this evening to battery and mains power, hit mode button and within a minute the system lit up. Now running stage 4 Absorbtion. I guess it will take a few hours for the charger / conditioner to check all the condition of the battery but pleased it did not come up with error lamp.

So fingers crossed the battery will not need to be replaced.

Will update again soon.

Cheers
Ian

SAG6Y

387 posts

188 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Can you not trickle charge through the cigarette lighter on vantage?

cibble10

722 posts

118 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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3rtt said:
Well the CTEK MSX 10 arrived today. Connected this evening to battery and mains power, hit mode button and within a minute the system lit up. Now running stage 4 Absorbtion. I guess it will take a few hours for the charger / conditioner to check all the condition of the battery but pleased it did not come up with error lamp.

So fingers crossed the battery will not need to be replaced.

Will update again soon.

Cheers
Ian
Straight charging on the battery seems optimal and removes any doubt as to whether enough charge is reaching the battery. When I replaced the battery I had issues with seat memories and windows. AM shop did the windows in 10 mins for free. Each seat you have to move to each of its adjustment extremes so it relearns its parameters then you can reset memories, windows I can't recall what he did. Similar? Sorry cannot recall exactly. Fingers crossed and good to get the update wink