RE: Six great supercars for BMW M3 money

RE: Six great supercars for BMW M3 money

Sunday 15th November 2015

Six great supercars for BMW M3 money

Can you afford not to buy one these great £50k supercars?



If you're in the market for a BMW M3, or its M4 coupe brother, don't buy one. That's because you could be missing out on the once in a lifetime chance to own a real supercar. Better still, bag the right car for the right price and you'll say goodbye to depreciation and even end up sitting on the automotive equivalent of a blue chip investment - a car that actually increases in value.

Of course supercars have higher running and servicing costs and will cost more to insure but supercar ownership, if done right, can also be one of the most rewarding experiences any car enthusiast could ever treat themselves to.

Here are the six best BMW M3 alternatives from the PistonHeads classifieds - each cost less than £50,000.

BMW M4 races its rivals here.

Video: Porsche Cayman GT4 Vs Lexus RC-F Vs BMW M4 Vs BMW I8 Drag Race  



Audi R8: The one you'll want to keep forever
Picking up where the Honda's NSX (more on that later) left off, Audi created something truly special with the Audi R8 - a supercar that is totally and utterly useable and one that, if pushed, won't kill you.

Even more impressive is its Quattro four-wheel drive that actually adds to the experience. It magically maximises traction when you need it providing blistering cross-country pace, but when you just want to have fun you'd swear the R8 was rear-wheel drive, with none of the built-in understeer that blights other fast Audis.

According to our buyers guide R8s are tougher than you might imagine too, but neglect (like failing to keep an eye on the oil level in between the long 20,000-mile services) can lunch the engine.

Audi R8s for less than £50,000 in the PistonHeads classifieds

Audi R8 vs Ducati Diavel

Audi R8 V10 Vs. Ducati Diavel  



Ferrari 360 Modena: The one to deafen you
It's a Ferrari for BMW M3 money - still need persuading? If you do the good news is £50,000 gets you a good one that lives up to some of the best in the breed. OK, it's not as conventionally pretty as the F355, but we've picked the 360 because it is without doubt the better, built around a more modern lightweight aluminium spaceframe that is significantly stiffer and tougher than the car it replaced.

Against the clock it might not be as quick as the M3 or M4, 'only' managing a 4.5-second sprint to 62mph. But it's the way it extracts its performance is what makes the Ferrari so special. Forget the BMW's turbos - the Ferrari's 400bhp 3.6-litre V8 is an absolute joy as it screams all the way to its 8,500rpm redline.

You will always have to be on the top of your game to drive it very quickly as it has a nasty snappy nature at maximum attack. But at road speeds it's a rich, involving experience.

The more so if you find one with the classic open-gated manual gearbox; most original buyers preferred the F1 automated version and its ability to keep up with the power delivery. Check out our buying guide here.

Ferrari 360s for less than £50,000 in the PistonHeads classifieds

Watch a Ferrari 360 drive through a tunnel here.

Video: Through A Tunnel In A Ferrari 360 Spider  



Honda NSX: The appreciating asset
As reliable as a Civic, faster than a Ferrari - the shockwaves of the first NSX are still being felt today and, for the price of a BMW M3 or M4, you could have your choice of some of the very last cars ever made.

Remember, this was the car that shook the supercar establishment to its very core and set the template for what a supercar should or shouldn't be.

Pre-NSX supercars were wonderful but only for the briefest of drives where at all times they felt like they were trying to kill you. If you were foolish enough to then actually buy they broke down, caught fire, fell apart and crippled you with backache on the short drive down to the yacht club.

Honda decided that wasn't cool. That's why its NSX had a rear window you could see out of, air conditioning that actually worked and a comfortable interior you didn't mind spending time in.

Boring then? Far from it, and even today the depth of engineering Honda invested in its first ever supercar still shines, from its aluminium monococque, all-round double wishbone suspension to its screaming V6 VTEC engine.

The fact that it was so easy to drive fast was the icing on the cake and today you can actually own one of the best out there.

We won't lie that NSX's are now getting a bit old in the tooth with some even suffering the indignity of automotive incontinence -leaking out vital fluids here and there. And remember, they've always been crushingly expensive to service and eat tyres. But without any depreciation to worry about, plus classic car insurance, it's easy to bend the figures and make a Honda NSX the logical choice. Full PistonHeads buying guide here.

Honda NSXs for less than £50,000 in the PistonHeads classifieds



Noble M12: The one for the track
With prices for the M12 almost £20,000 less than a well-option'd BMW M4 you could own something that looks like it should be travelling 200mph on the Mulsanne straight. Not that you buy the Noble for its looks. Nor it's interior quality, or ability to swallow a weekend's luggage. No, you buy a Noble M400 for the brilliance of its drive.

Feeling more like a grown-up Elise, the Noble highlights everything that's wrong with modern performance cars in a short drive.

Its steering that fizzes with feel, for example, while its ride is almost supple, flowing with a difficult road and things only get better the faster you go. That Roush-reengineered Ford lump also feels far more exotic than it has any right to - and the way the 3.0-litre V6 twin-turbo gathers boost makes it feel very Porsche 911 GT2.

Of course it's not perfect, or practical, or even vaguely comfortable and the lack of ABS is a real problem on our roads. But the fact the Noble is still made under licence in the US means you can upgrade your car and make it even faster.

Ownership should be cost effective too but check for crash damage and chassis corrosion before buying. Full M12 buying guide here.

Noble M12s for less than £50,000 in the PistonHeads classifieds

Watch a Noble drive-by here.

Video: Noble M12 Drive By  



Porsche 911 (997) Turbo: The everyday one
Another reason to not buy a BMW M3 or M4 is the Porsche 911. You could have the super focused GT3 (if you're quick) but we've instead chosen one of the most complete supercars ever made - the Porsche 911 Turbo.

Instead of falling head-over-heels in love after the very instant you first drive one the first encounter may leave you feeling a little cold. That's because they need time to appreciate and then, only then, will it worm its way into your affections.

It's almost too comfortable, too easy to drive, too normal initially. But use it - and keep using it - and a transformation will occur.

Traction, for example is simply not an issue thanks to its four-wheel drive and that means you start finding yourself using more power than you ever thought possible. Then there's the cabin; it's comfortable, useable and, apart from a spiteful sat-nav, is somewhere you'll begin to love spending time.

We say buy a manual for the best investment potential, as in the future more and more supercar buyers will miss the interaction only a gearshift can offer. Actually, scratch that, buy whatever you want because you'll end up keeping your 911 Turbo too long, racking up far too many miles for it to actually be worth anything in the future. You won't mind, they'll be little or no reason to sell it. You'll be bored of the BMW in 12 months.

Porsche 911 Turbos for less than £50,000 in the PistonHeads classifieds

Watch the video here.

Video: Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet Review  


Lotus Esprit Sport 300/GT3: The criminally undervalued ones
Here's where you'll have to trust us and take a leap of faith. The Lotus Esprit Sport 300 was the car Hethel had to make to compete in the GT1 class that raced at Le Mans. And that's why it feels so special, from its race-spec AP brakes, wide OZ alloys and tacked on wheelarch extensions. Its engine, meanwhile, was also a work-of-art, producing 302bhp from its 2.2-litre turbo. With a kerbweight of just 1,200kg you can understand why it is a paid up member of the supercar club and, despite just 64 being made Sport 300s can still be bought for less than £50,000.

Perhaps a wiser bet still is the much later GT3 that sell for a ludicrously cheap £20K. For that Lotus carved 150kg off its kerbweight to make it faster and more focused. OK, it also only had to make do with a laggy 243hp from just 2.0-litres, but it still capable of a 0-60mph time of just 4.8 seconds and is one of the finest balanced Lotus ever.

Sure, the Renault-sourced five-speed 'box is terrible, but once you work around that this and the fact that all Esprits look, feel (and sometimes act) like they've been thrown you'll begin to relish is character and the quality of its drive, ride and feelsome steering.

You might actually begin to enjoy the odd squeaks and rattle too.

Lotus Esprits for less than £50,000 in the PistonHeads classifieds



Nissan GT-R: The fastest one
Ignore the fact that the GT-R is a big, heavy coupe, has four seats (notionally - it's a 2+2 really), a large boot and has a badge as exotic as a pint of milk because the Nissan is one of the greatest and fastest supercars in modern history. And from £35,000 will annihilate not just the BMW on road and track but just about all the cars on our list.

Better still, at this money you'll have money to either boost the already mighty 473bhp 3.8-litre twin-turbo V6 and create something that could humble a Veyron.

We'd keep it standard and spend the money on brakes and tyres for track days. But wherever you drive it the big Nissan is not only significantly faster than the BMW - it's far more involving and exciting. At this price looks like a steal.

All this from the same people who have just given us the Pulsar.

Nissan GT-Rs for less than £50,000 in the PistonHeads classifieds

Watch the video here.

Video: Nissan GT-R Nismo Vs Nissan Juke-R 2.0 - Drag Race  

 

Author
Discussion

daytona365

Original Poster:

1,773 posts

164 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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That's quite a sobering array of highly desirable machinery. But doesn't this just hark back to the age old debate of new versus secondhand, sorry 'preowned' ? Why buy a new Fiesta, when a used seven series BMW with all the bells and whistles is quite a lot cheaper ?! You pays your money and takes your choice as always.

CharlesAL

532 posts

124 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Because running costs?

Poopipe

619 posts

144 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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This is different - you dont drop 50k on a new m3 because you need a car to get to work and want the security of a warranty, you buy one because you want a fast car that drops knickers at 50 paces.

Fwiw I'd buy the fezza, use it for my commute to work and make a point of hardly ever washing it biggrin

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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CharlesAL said:
Because running costs?
What's the projected depreciation on an M3/4?

Nice to have seen a Sagaris in there.

Nedzilla

2,439 posts

174 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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B17NNS said:
CharlesAL said:
Because running costs?
What's the projected depreciation on an M3/4?

Nice to have seen a Sagaris in there.
Same as all fast BMW's........fking horrendous!!!!

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Nedzilla said:
Same as all fast BMW's........fking horrendous!!!!
Should comfortably cover the running costs on something exotic then?

slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Trying not to be too much of a fan boy but who wrote that piece on the noble?

It runs rings round all those cars there in terms of handling and feel. Acceleration too though not top end.

No abs? It was never once an issue for me even taking the car to go skiing. Are we forgeting this is pistonheads not mumsnet.

Reliable... erm well defo not they will cost money to run

However the biggest issue I have with that little piece on the car its looks.
I never met a single person that didn't think the car was stunning. Ugly never came into it!

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

203 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I'd rather have the M3/ M4.

Nedzilla

2,439 posts

174 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Had a GTR and currently got an R8 and I cant imagine the running costs being any more than an M3/4. The 360 may through up a few nasty surprises though.
Only lost £3k depreciation in 2 years on the GTR and expect about the same or less on the R8.

Would hate to think what you would lose in two years on a new M3........

acme

2,971 posts

198 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Nedzilla said:
Had a GTR and currently got an R8 and I cant imagine the running costs being any more than an M3/4. The 360 may through up a few nasty surprises though.
Only lost £3k depreciation in 2 years on the GTR and expect about the same or less on the R8.

Would hate to think what you would lose in two years on a new M3........
Given that you have/had two on the list would be interested in how you think they compare? Is the R8 a V8 & manual?

Cherrs

thelawnet

1,539 posts

155 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Urban Sports said:
I'd rather have the M3/ M4.
Friend of mine bought a succession of them, cost him over £100k in depreciation alone, and routine servicing was expensive, high insurance too.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I'd wager a very large percentage of new M3/4 owners don't simply purchase the car outright with cash however.

It's alright saying a Ferrari 360 is the same money, but it doesn't come with easy option finance offers or 3 year lease deals.

Edited by LaurasOtherHalf on Sunday 23 November 09:47

JM5

367 posts

156 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I looked at the new m3 / m4 and my list of other contenders was similar to the cars for this article.
The one that I think is missing is the lotus evora which I eventualy went for. Not a supercar but neither is the noble or R8 in my mind.

DonkeyApple

55,255 posts

169 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I see that the term 'supercar' is pretty much as valueless as 'executive' or 'premier' these days.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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The NSX really shows its age now compared to that lot. It appears to be fitted with wheels from a skateboard smile

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

151 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I'd take the Nissan please, I have not driven any of the others, but for me it's the best looking car, and not to shabby performance.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

151 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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St John Smythe said:
The NSX really shows its age now compared to that lot. It appears to be fitted with wheels from a skateboard smile
Agreed, expect to get flamed for this, but it's the only car there that does absolutely nothing for me.
Aged very badly.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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95% of people who have M3's and M4',s will have them on some sort of finance package, that's just not available on those supercars.

Birdster

2,529 posts

143 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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acme said:
Nedzilla said:
Had a GTR and currently got an R8 and I cant imagine the running costs being any more than an M3/4. The 360 may through up a few nasty surprises though.
Only lost £3k depreciation in 2 years on the GTR and expect about the same or less on the R8.

Would hate to think what you would lose in two years on a new M3........
Given that you have/had two on the list would be interested in how you think they compare? Is the R8 a V8 & manual?

Cherrs
I'm also interested in some more detail if you don't mind.

Are both of those cars depreciating that slowly? Aside from fuel how much did the GTR cost for two years in top of depreciation?

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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But shirley, shouldn't a "Supercar" be edgy, a big event every time you drive it?
Driven the 911, nice but anodyne, boring. Driven 2 different NSX, sublime handling and comfort, but not all that fast or involving. Driven an M3, fast but frantic, and still a bit too accomplished. Driven a 360, great car, not that quick, but fairly involving and good presence. Owned a V8 Esprit, the consumate Supercar. Fast, needs respect and great presence - but possible as a daily. But, I'm biased. Hey, this is PH, isn't everyone?

I think the new v old is not very relevant as has been said. Most people want a new car for the peace of mind of a warranty plus the cachet of being the first (ahem, like some other things in life). I could take this to the extreme - my Bentley Turbo R cost less than a new fiesta. But that is hardly a fair comparison, is it?