Feet on brake pedal when stopped.

Feet on brake pedal when stopped.

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Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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grayze said:
they apply the parking brake when the car is stationery .
I'd take the car back and get one made out of metal if I were you.

Coatesy351

861 posts

132 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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skyrover said:
What I don't understand is that in USA land where 99% of car's are automatic, and having lived there for 2 years... not once did I hear an American complain about the brightness of the car in front's brake lights.
This ^ its the same in Aus It's not something you ever hear someone complaining about.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I was taught to use the foot brake as part of a driving course last year. If it's on a hill I use both the handbrake and foot brake.

Statistically you are less likely to be shunted from behind if you have your brake lights on.








paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

159 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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RobinBanks said:
Neutral + handbrake?

I must be the only person on this site who doesn't complain of losing my vision every time someone brakes because I'm dazzled. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
No, but you're the only person who's bothered to mention it. The classic selection bias of websites.

I don't mind either. I use the handbrake myself but if someone else wants to do otherwise eh.

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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This subject is like getting a cold. It happens a few times a year and its always the same!

Swanny87

1,265 posts

119 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I followed an latest gen Astra once, with the flashing emergency brake lights. I think there must have been something wrong (with an Astra? Never!! hehe) with the electronics as they were flashing under normal braking. Now that was annoying.

giger

732 posts

194 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I have a MY 2103 VW CC - electronic parking brake and autohold as standard. I've assumed that autohold is now standard across the VAG range, but maybe it isn't yet.
When I come to a stop at traffic lights I put the car in neutral; via the autohold feature the electronic parking brake automatically activates and the engine switches off if there is enough juice charged. when I select a gear to move off, the car stats, parking brake is released and off we go. I never have to manually apply the parking brake and due to the above, never sit stationary with my foot on the brake.

If I am in gear and stationary (i.e. waiting to turn across a road)the brake pressure is maintained if I take my foot of the brake, and releases when I go back on the gas and the clutch biting point is reached. Handy. I used to hate these systems, but they now seem very good.

SK425

1,034 posts

149 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Prof Prolapse said:
I was taught to use the foot brake as part of a driving course last year. If it's on a hill I use both the handbrake and foot brake.

Statistically you are less likely to be shunted from behind if you have your brake lights on.
It makes a lot of sense to consider leaving your brake lights on when you're at the back of the queue if you feel that will help the next driver and protect you. It's a little less relevant after the driver behind has demonstrated that they are not, on this occasion, going to plough into you and you are no longer at the back. Statistically you are extraordinarily unlikely to be shunted from behind by a car that's not moving smile.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

190 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I actually smile a little when I see people sat with their foot on the brakes, it keeps my garage in business.

The rear lamp holders on most cars are not designed to have the brake lights on all the time. The sidelights are 5 Watt, brakelights are over four times more powerful at 21 Watt. The higher current draw sometimes results in the earth terminal burning out.

Sometimes we can clean or bypass the terminals, sometimes it requires a new cluster, I call it an idiot tax.

Some pictures from this week alone.




xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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jhfozzy said:
I actually smile a little when I see people sat with their foot on the brakes, it keeps my garage in business.

The rear lamp holders on most cars are not designed to have the brake lights on all the time. The sidelights are 5 Watt, brakelights are over four times more powerful at 21 Watt. The higher current draw sometimes results in the earth terminal burning out.

Sometimes we can clean or bypass the terminals, sometimes it requires a new cluster, I call it an idiot tax.

Some pictures from this week alone.



Interesting perspective. Does this affect any makes more than others?

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

190 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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xRIEx said:
jhfozzy said:
I actually smile a little when I see people sat with their foot on the brakes, it keeps my garage in business.

The rear lamp holders on most cars are not designed to have the brake lights on all the time. The sidelights are 5 Watt, brakelights are over four times more powerful at 21 Watt. The higher current draw sometimes results in the earth terminal burning out.

Sometimes we can clean or bypass the terminals, sometimes it requires a new cluster, I call it an idiot tax.

Some pictures from this week alone.
Interesting perspective. Does this affect any makes more than others?
Smaller Renaults and Peugeots are the most common in my experience, but I don't know if it's the type of person that buys that type of car or that the electrics are made of chocolate.

The badly burnt one was a transit van, we do get a lot of those in too.

Edited by jhfozzy on Monday 24th November 14:55

roverspeed

700 posts

196 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I just use the autohold function in my passat.

I thought it would be annoying at first but it works fantastically

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/parking-and...

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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jhfozzy said:
Smaller Renaults and Peugeots are the most common in my experience, but I don't know if it's the type of person that buys that type of car or that the electrics are made of chocolate.
French electrics...


jhfozzy

1,345 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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skyrover said:
jhfozzy said:
Smaller Renaults and Peugeots are the most common in my experience, but I don't know if it's the type of person that buys that type of car or that the electrics are made of chocolate.
French electrics...
To be fair (and it pains me a lot to be fair to the French) they don't really have the same climate as us and their cars are designed as such.

I find it the same with Asian car/truck electrics, I find that Hino trucks haven't got the same sort of waterproofing as UK built trucks.

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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SK425 said:
Prof Prolapse said:
I was taught to use the foot brake as part of a driving course last year. If it's on a hill I use both the handbrake and foot brake.

Statistically you are less likely to be shunted from behind if you have your brake lights on.
It makes a lot of sense to consider leaving your brake lights on when you're at the back of the queue if you feel that will help the next driver and protect you. It's a little less relevant after the driver behind has demonstrated that they are not, on this occasion, going to plough into you and you are no longer at the back. Statistically you are extraordinarily unlikely to be shunted from behind by a car that's not moving smile.
I'd agree with that.

To be honest we could go into the subtle nuances of it all day but overall it's a good idea.

Muddle238

3,894 posts

113 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Got a lift to the station with the OH's mother the other day. She does this all the time, somehow came up in conversation and I pointed out that with your foot on the brake you're shining a trio of red lights into the face of the driver behind. She just went "oh I hadn't even thought of that!"...

mikal83

5,340 posts

252 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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RobinBanks said:
xRIEx said:
Foppo said:
or put that little lever in park when you have a automatic.
And if someone crashes into you the very expensive gearbox gets fked as well as the boot.
Neutral + handbrake?

I must be the only person on this site who doesn't complain of losing my vision every time someone brakes because I'm dazzled. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
With the utmost respect, that's lovely for you, but can you not appreciate that it's really, really irritating and potentially dnagerous for others?

Vipers

32,876 posts

228 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Pothole said:
RobinBanks said:
xRIEx said:
Foppo said:
or put that little lever in park when you have a automatic.
And if someone crashes into you the very expensive gearbox gets fked as well as the boot.
Neutral + handbrake?

I must be the only person on this site who doesn't complain of losing my vision every time someone brakes because I'm dazzled. It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
With the utmost respect, that's lovely for you, but can you not appreciate that it's really, really irritating and potentially dnagerous for others?
We are flogging a dead horse here There are those (me included) who find some rear brake lights dazzling, and irritating when in long stop/start queues.

I have already mentioned rods in the eye and susceptibility. But there are those who obviously aren't bothered, and even knowing it irritates others (from some posts on here), who don't give a ste for anybody else.

I all right Jack.



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Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Horse Pop said:
Dazzled? Really?

Are you dazzled when the car in front slows down?.
No. But then I'm just a little further away.