How can a school be criticised for being too English?

How can a school be criticised for being too English?

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Halb

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53,012 posts

183 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Muntu

7,635 posts

199 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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They're clearly programming future Aryan racists hehe

Sharted

2,624 posts

143 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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'This is as un-British as it gets'

Make your fking mind up is it English or British?

ecs

1,227 posts

170 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Well, what do you expect from The Express?

Is there a source for this story that's not a newspaper renowned for writing made up stories to sell papers and generate click bait?

Muntu

7,635 posts

199 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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ecs said:
Well, what do you expect from The Express?

Is there a source for this story that's not a newspaper renowned for writing made up stories to sell papers and generate click bait?
Time to wind your neck back in, one nanosecond on Google is all it takes: https://www.google.com/search?q=Middle+Rasen+Prima...

johnS2000

458 posts

172 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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They need a few muslim private hire drivers to redress the balance.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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johnS2000 said:
They need a few muslim private hire sex abusers to redress the balance.
EFA,
Wonders if any inner city schools are too black!!

phil-sti

2,678 posts

179 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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They haven't said "it's too English" but that it lacks first hand experience of other cultures. I wonder if they don't do visits to mosques etc?

Edited by phil-sti on Saturday 22 November 20:18

manic47

734 posts

165 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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ecs said:
Is there a source for this story that's not a newspaper renowned for writing made up stories to sell papers and generate click bait?
It's a poor headline really - there's more reasons than both the headline and complaining MP as to why they didn't get an outstanding grade overall.
They didn't get a better than good evaluation in any of the 5 sections that are assessed, and I assume this matched their own self-assessment of their school.

That said - it's a great improvement from their last one from 2012, surprisingly with the same Head Teacher and Chair of Govs.

phil-sti said:
They have said "it's too English" but that it lacks first hand experience of other cultures. I wonder if they don't do visits to mosques etc?
Our school (very mixed race/religion/nationality, in a poor area of a big town) has done 'exchange days' with a class or two at a time from village schools where the pupils are almost exclusively white English. It's a better way IMO of getting the children to mix informally and accept those of a different background than a visit to a mosque or Hindu temple.

Edited by manic47 on Saturday 22 November 20:17 due to abysmal grammar



Edited by manic47 on Monday 24th November 13:30

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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I generally agree with the sentiment of the article.

The 'delights' of the melting multicultural pot simply don't exist outside the major cities. Having worked in rural areas I can confirm things are very white and Christian.

I'm not sure why certain political entities simply don't accept this and persist to push the concept as though everywhere in the UK resembles London.

voyds9

8,488 posts

283 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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phil-sti said:
They haven't said "it's too English" but that it lacks first hand experience of other cultures. I wonder if they don't do visits to mosques etc?

Edited by phil-sti on Saturday 22 November 20:18
I would guess that most of them visit Spain or Greece on a yearly basis but these are perhaps the cultures we have already integrated with.

What is integration. Combining parts so they work together.

seems to be working well, the muslim men are drinking and the white girls are pregnant at 15/16.

andymc

7,348 posts

207 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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g3org3y said:
I generally agree with the sentiment of the article.

The 'delights' of the melting multicultural pot simply don't exist outside the major cities. Having worked in rural areas I can confirm things are very white and Christian.

I'm not sure why certain political entities simply don't accept this and persist to push the concept as though everywhere in the UK resembles London.
Not altogether a bad thing

AJS-

15,366 posts

236 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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The remarks are only surprising for their candour.

arp1

583 posts

127 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Why is England and Britain being used interchangeably?

Eric Mc

121,941 posts

265 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Absolutely.

I'm proud to be British but I'm not English.

The two aren't the same. Many English people seem unable to grasp this concept.

turbobloke

103,863 posts

260 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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The Ofsted inspector(s) were using guidance in the current September 2014 Inspection Handbook at para 103. A school can fail its inspection and enter an Ofsted category i.e. require improvement or be inadequate if SMSC provision doesn't cut the mustard and pupils' education has a deficit in this aspect of the curriculum.

Serious weaknesses
103. A school is judged to require significant improvement where it has serious weaknesses because one or more of the key judgements is inadequate (grade 4) and/or there are important weaknesses in the provision for pupils’ spiritual, moral, social and cultural development. However, normally, leaders, managers and governors have been assessed as having the capacity to secure improvement.

My emphasis in bold and note the 'or' aspect in and/or. The last bit simply sets out how the decision over 3 or 4 rests on capacity to improve. With less than sparkly compliance a potential top grade can and will suffer and the school may be knocked back a notch.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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turbobloke said:
My emphasis in bold and note the 'or' aspect in and/or. The last bit simply sets out how the decision over 3 or 4 rests on capacity to improve. With less than sparkly compliance a potential top grade can and will suffer and the school may be knocked back a notch.
Which is fair enough really. If you get to the age of sixteen without having met a non-white person, the chances are that your world view is somewhat parochial and is likely to cause you problems in our globalised work life. It's pretty important to understand that people from other ethnic groups are not in fact aliens from the planet Zog but people.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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powerstroke said:
EFA,
Wonders if any inner city schools are too black!!
Yes, quite.

Presumably any school with a higher-than-average minority ethnic population would be criticised for not being white enough.

Thought not.

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Eric Mc said:
The two aren't the same. Many English people seem unable to grasp this concept.
+1. I have loads in common with friends from other colonial outposts (from Ireland to Hong Kong) but very little in common with English people (* - however you might define it) though I've lived here all my life. I mean I eat English food and do English things but am a bit disconnected from it all.

arp1

583 posts

127 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Try doing British things and you may feel different wink