Which car brands will see the most growth in the next 5 year

Which car brands will see the most growth in the next 5 year

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white_goodman

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4,042 posts

191 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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In terms of UK sales and market share, which car brands do you think will see the biggest growth in the next 5 years.

The last 25 years have been interesting times in the UK car market. We have seen the decline of Ford and Vauxhall (in terms of market share not product quality) and the demise of Rover, the rise and fall of Renault, Peugeot and Citroen and more recently the rise of the German brands (BMW, Audi, Mercedes, VW) and Hyundai and Kia in the budget market.

I expect to see the Germans and Hyundai and Kia continue to do well but can`t really see Hyundai or Kia successfully expanding into the luxury market.

The budget market is an interesting one. If a car is fit for purpose, of decent enough quality and cheap enough then it should always be able to sell but I don`t see this area of the market growing significantly, as people in the UK don`t want larger cars with budget badges.

Perhaps Dacia, although they already make a small car and an SUV. What else can they make. A cheap 7-seat MPV possibly. Fiat possibly, if they can do what MINI have done with their 500 brand. We already have the 500, 500C and 500L and now the 500X. This is the shame though, as Fiat made some great cars prior to the 500 (Uno, Tipo, Coupe, barchetta etc).

I see the biggest area of growth being in the luxury car market. I can`t be the only one who would like a decent alternative to the ubiquity of a 3-Series or 5-Series, A4 or A6 or a C-Class or E-Class.

I hope Jaguar do well with the forthcoming XE (I think that would be my pick over a 3-Series, A4 or C-Class) and the much hyped Jaguar SUV turns out to be decent and sells well.

How about Lexus and Infiniti. They certainly have the ability to make some of the best cars in the world (original LS400 and LFA) and GTR. The Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge concept looks intriguing too. They certainly have the potential for engineering excellence and could challenge the overrated quality, reliability and customer service of Audi, BMW and Mercedes. I certainly don`t think that they are any less handsome or any more bland than their German rivals. They need to raise their game a bit though, especially in terms of engine technology. It baffles me that Lexus no longer make a diesel IS. Some estates would be a good idea too.

Tesla are quite intriguing. If they can replicate the Model S but in a 3-Series size and for less money, then they might be on to something.

Don`t laugh but how about GM bringing Cadillac back to the UK. Yes, I know that they have tried (and failed) before but Cadillac (and Buick) do very well in North America and now have a much better quality, highly regarded product with a range of very well-equipped RWD or AWD saloons and SUVs. They might have some success with the ATS (3-Series), CTS (5-Series) and SRX (X3). All they need is a decent diesel option.

What car brands do you expect to grow in the next 5 years.

dwol

100 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Skoda are growing every year new fabia and superb due next year.

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Jaguar

Especially as the 3 series rival comes out in the next few months - XE?

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Do you mean growth in absolute number of units sold, or growth in relation to existing size?

Growth by percentage of current sales: Tesla.

Their 3-series competitor does not have to cost less than a 3-series. In fact they would be foolish to make it so cheap, given the large cost advantage it will bring its owners on taxation and fuelling.

Looket

688 posts

121 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Volvo, once they start phasing out their current line-up. The XC90 is bound to be a success, and if they can keep up the momentum with the rest of the range then I can see them doing very well.

Can't see yanks doing too well.

Tickle

4,917 posts

204 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Zenos I hope

Spare tyre

9,566 posts

130 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Whoever does the smallest monthly price with the smallest deposit


bazza white

3,558 posts

128 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Mazda. Been a good year and with new models will keep on growing.





bompey

541 posts

235 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Porsche will grow. The Macan will be a bigger seller than the Cayenne and there is a smalller panamera coming which will compete with the upper end of the 5 series and e class.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Chinese ones

thelawnet

1,539 posts

155 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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If you look at the trends:

  • city cars - still only 3% of the market, but up from 1% 20 years ago - should keep growing
  • small hatchbacks - growing steadily
  • family hatchbacks - shrinking
  • family saloons - in drastic decline
  • executive saloons - in decline
  • luxury saloons - now just 0.4% of the market
  • SUV/CUV things - just keep growing, from 4% 20 years ago to 11% today
  • MPVs - basically stable
To grow:

  • Hyundai and Kia - both have around 3% of the new car market, and room to grow with their small cars and sensibly priced crossovers.
  • Land Rover/Range Rover - the Evoque should eat up some of the premium saloon market, and they have only 2% of the new car market, and the SUV market will just continue to grow.
  • Skoda - same marketshare as Hyundai and Kia, and a full line up of good cars each one priced to sell (on PCP!)
Growth should be at the expense of Vauxhall, which still has over 10% market share, which is absurd really.

I don't think Nissan will grow necessarily, as they've already quite a good marketshare, and the Qashqai no longer looks the innovative modern vehicle it did at launch.

Audi sell a ridiculous number of cars and presumably their margins are high enough that they can price to sell. Mercedes and BMW are just behind and are big enough that they can lose a little market share to Range Rover without suffering too much.

Morningside

24,110 posts

229 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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KIA - It starts, stops and goes round corners. It's a Rover for the 21st century.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Morningside said:
KIA - It starts, stops and goes round corners. It's a Rover for the 21st century.
It certainly seems to be attracting the stereotypical Rover drivers judging by the people I see driving them, I suspect their average car buyer is easily over 50 and possibly over 60.

Justin Case

2,195 posts

134 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Fiat and Alfa Romeo, provided that they actually have a range of cars to sell.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Honda.

There's a small SUV/Cross-Over coming in the summer, plus a range of efficient turbo petrol engines. They'll also benefit from the halo effect of the NSX, Civic Type R and Formula One exposure.

SS7

CarlT

3,423 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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SEAT are up massively this year and will continue to grow...

GB123

231 posts

153 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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white_goodman said:
They need to raise their game a bit though, especially in terms of engine technology. It baffles me that Lexus no longer make a diesel IS.
On the contrary, I'd argue that the petrol hybrids that they offer instead will be the way most manufacturers will start to move in the not too distant future.

I can certainly see diesels becoming less popular, especially with the EU's constant tirade against emissions.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I'd say Skoda, Jaguar, Kia and Hyundai are the most obvious marques on the up at the moment. Tesla depends entirely on how good the model-3 is.

PlayersNo6

1,102 posts

156 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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white_goodman said:
I expect to see the Germans and Hyundai and Kia continue to do well but can`t really see Hyundai or Kia successfully expanding into the luxury market.
Maybe not luxury but I believe Hyundai are already expanding into the 'executive' market in the US.

white_goodman said:
Don`t laugh but how about GM bringing Cadillac back to the UK. Yes, I know that they have tried (and failed) before but Cadillac (and Buick) do very well in North America and now have a much better quality, highly regarded product with a range of very well-equipped RWD or AWD saloons and SUVs. They might have some success with the ATS (3-Series), CTS (5-Series) and SRX (X3). All they need is a decent diesel option.
Ironic that Buick's big seller, the Regal, is now just a re-badged Vauxhall Insignia. Can't see Cadillac trying again after the failure of first the STS and then the rebadged SAABs.

L555BAT

1,427 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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I imagine it'll follow the trends in population wealth, so bottom end of the market (by size and brand) growing, middle end declining, top end growing.