Rough ring valuation.

Rough ring valuation.

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Ruskie

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3,989 posts

200 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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On behalf of my parents who are getting conflicting advise from dealers about a diamond ring. I know there are some experts on here so I'm looking for a rough ball park figure.

Details are - Solitaire, Rose Cut, 2.05 Carat set in 18c Gold. Certificate of authenticity/carat. Purchased in 1995. Told there are two small chips and two flaws not visible to the naked eye.

I fully appreciate it difficult to value something like this without seeing it but I'm looking for a rough ball park figure to make sure they aren't getting ripped off.

Thanks.

michael gould

5,691 posts

241 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Impossible to value with that information but somewhere between 2k and 20k

ruff'n'smov

1,092 posts

149 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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A picture of the ring and the certificate would help towards a credible valuation.

ecain63

10,588 posts

175 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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By rose cut i assume 'old cut'? Rose cuts are usually very small, poorly faceted stones that littered rings from the Victorian era. Old cuts are a common but old fashioned style for larger centre stones. You can also get hybrid old cut / brilliant cuts called European cuts. Very nice stones but lesser known and quite rare. My missus had a 1.3ct European cut for her engagement ring in 2006 and only a couple of weeks ago i found a matching one of 2.38ct which will replace / upgrade from her smaller original stone (hard times). Anyhoo, back to topic.

From the description i cannot value it accurately at all. Stones of 2.05ct will range anywhere from £3k to £60k+depending on clarity etc. If it only has a couple of small inclusions then it's probably SI or better. Assuming VS for arguments sake and an average to good colour then the highstreet / replacement value will be circa £15 to £20k. Could be more, could be less. The chips should not affect the value unless really bad as the value is based on the cost to replace like for like when new. As a guide, my missus new 2.38ct was valued at £42k given the grading came back at VVS2, colour H so if your stone is better than average you could be looking at more value than first thought. If it's SI or worse and poor in colour then it could be worth very little. The good thing about old cuts is that they do hold a slightly higher value than the modern cuts as they have that antique credibility to them. Be interesting to see any pics if you have them.

Ruskie

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200 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Yes it's old cut. 2 small inclusions and 2 small chips.

Top offer so far is £2600.

It's certificated at 2.05 carats and insured for £6700.

michael gould

5,691 posts

241 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Ruskie said:
Yes it's old cut. 2 small inclusions and 2 small chips.

Top offer so far is £2600.

It's certificated at 2.05 carats and insured for £6700.
obviously you have no idea what colour it is , what its clarity is, what symmetry it has, does it have fluorescence .......so it is impossible to give you advise ....however if its been valued for insurance at £6700 then a £2600 bid is not that bad

ecain63

10,588 posts

175 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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At only £6k insurance value I would suggest the stone is not great quality. Anything over 2ct with decent gradings will be well into 5 figures.

Ruskie

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Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Thanks for the help. It does have the clarity etc on the certificate but I don't have access to it at the moment. Think they paid £2500 in 1995 so they are happy with getting around that price plus they have had 20 years pleasure of wearing it.

ecain63

10,588 posts

175 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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When was it valued at £6k? What year?

Ruskie

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Thursday 11th December 2014
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ecain63 said:
When was it valued at £6k? What year?
1997

Sy1441

1,116 posts

160 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Insurance Valuations aren't worth the paper they're written on when it comes to market resell value.

Ruskie

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Thursday 11th December 2014
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Sy1441 said:
Insurance Valuations aren't worth the paper they're written on when it comes to market resell value.
What point do they serve then?

ecain63

10,588 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Ruskie said:
ecain63 said:
When was it valued at £6k? What year?
1997
Pre recession then! Highly inaccurate as the price of diamonds has increased in the same way gold has.

ecain63

10,588 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Ruskie said:
Sy1441 said:
Insurance Valuations aren't worth the paper they're written on when it comes to market resell value.
What point do they serve then?
Insurance valuations do what they say on the tin. It's a 'replacement' valuation for insurance purposes. So if you lose it, or it's stolen or damaged you would get back what the item was worth / would get a like for like / value for like replacement. Valuations are only really valid for 3 years as prices do vary a lot in today's climate.

Resale / scrap value is based on scrap metal prices and wholesale diamond value. Usually about 10% of the retail value.

Ruskie

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Thursday 11th December 2014
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ecain63 said:
Ruskie said:
ecain63 said:
When was it valued at £6k? What year?
1997
Pre recession then! Highly inaccurate as the price of diamonds has increased in the same way gold has.
Might be worth having it reassessed then!