robbers-smash-into-home-with-battering-ram

[superkartracer]

http://news.sky.com/story/1379697/robbers-smash-in...

Scary footage this.

[Dog Star]

That leaves me lost for words. Leathers and helmet for the bike too.

What the hell are you meant to do against that sort of thing? Which is now exactly what I am geared up for if "my" vehicle thieves come back.

[OllieC]

I suppose its the kind of thing that happens when the courts and sentencing are so weak.

[skyrover]

[Crush]

OllieC said:

I suppose its the kind of thing that happens when the courts and sentencing are so weak.

[Dog Star]

anonymous said:

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It's like anywhere - there are some nice parts of Blackley, sadly surrounded by utter stholes
In cases like this I don't think the area has a right lot to do with it; the thieves are quite capable of driving their vehicle to somewhere posh, I'm sure.

But totally agree - they've committed an aggravated burglary, held a knife at someone's throat and come very well prepared indeed. All to steal a bike worth what? Fifteen grand retail? For which they will sell on for how much? That's some fked up risk/reward evaluation IMO. They'd have been better off robbing a post office.

Seeing that should make any person who has a high-end bike very worried, no matter where they live. Mine is covered in locks, alarms etc, we're locked and alarmed in the house at night. But what can you do against this kind of threat? Looking at those forensic paper suits they're wearing I have little faith they'll be caught.

[Morningside]

Frighteningly if once one starts the 'craze' might spread.

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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Sad but true. (One of Mrs Digga's nans used to live in a house backing onto Boggart Hole. Was a different place back then.)

anonymous said:

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Years in jail? You, I and the scrotes know this is statistically unlikely.

As in if the police investigate, if they get any evidence and if the CPS doesn't bungle the case and if they get a judge with some semblance of common sense, they will get a sentence that they might serve a bit of.

Add all the above the the fact that, for those within certain circles, time inside is neither punishment or hardship, but time with mates, albeit minus booze and birds (drugs are not problem to sort though) and you get a very, very meager deterrent.

[markcoznottz]

Maybe more to it? Debts owed etc? Does seem strange given the risk/reward factor and not that professional if they were heard talking.

[OllieC]

a new York latch would help I suppose

[Wacky Racer]

Why go to all that trouble to steal an expensive car and abandon it shortly afterwards?

[Dog Star]

Wacky Racer said:

Why go to all that trouble to steal an expensive car and abandon it shortly afterwards?

They were after the bike, not the car.

They even took they guys leathers - that's just odd.

[V8 Fettler]

Is there a possible conspiracy charge lurking here? Clearly well planned.

[paranoid airbag]

Crush said:

OllieC said:

I suppose its the kind of thing that happens when the courts and sentencing are so weak.

Right, this would never happen somewhere like, say, the US.

[skyrover]

paranoid airbag said:

Right, this would never happen somewhere like, say, the US.

Violent crime is much lower in the US than in the UK

The home-owner is also rarely incriminated for using force to defend oneself and ones family.

[baldy1926]

Thought that was going to be one of the Hampstead ones. They use sledge hammers and mopeds to smash the front doors in. With a no chase policy they can do that at will

[Digga]

Dog Star said:

Wacky Racer said:

Why go to all that trouble to steal an expensive car and abandon it shortly afterwards?

They were after the bike, not the car.

They even took they guys leathers - that's just odd.

perhaps just to stop the owner pursuing them. Have heard of previous burglary where tyres were let down for, apparently, the same reason.

[tangerine_sedge]

skyrover said:

Violent crime is much lower in the US than in the UK

The home-owner is also rarely incriminated for using force to defend oneself and ones family.

This is often repeated rubbish propogated by the hard of thinking. Link here (there are many more) disputes it.

TLDR; US & UK definitions of violent crime massively differ, meaning that trivial crimes are also recorded as violent in the UK.

[Soov535]

anonymous said:

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Not sure sure, tonks. They look like serious people to me, not scrotes.

[skyrover]

Thanks for the slur...

My first hand experiance of the USA was a massive amount of very safe areas and a small amount of very unsafe ones.