RE: MY2015 Nissan GT-R updates
Wednesday 26th November 2014
There are two axes to GT-R evolution apparently. The horizontal is the 'R' axis, the Racing side of GT-R which has been developed recently with the NISMO and the GT3 motorsport programme. Now with the MY15 car Nissan wants to emphasise the vertical axis, the Grand Touring part of the GT-R experience that you could argue we haven't seen much of thus far.
Rays wheels mark out the NISMO track editionSo how to do it? As is the GT-R way the changes are enacted through a series of small detail tweaks rather than a total overhaul. The focus has been on further refinements to the chassis and a reduction in interior noise and vibration.
Silica Bronze 45th Anniversary car just for JapanIf all this sounds like the GT-R is going a bit soft, there is also a new NISMO Track Edition to bridge the gap between the standard and full-fat NISMO cars. Rays forged wheels, stickier Dunlop tyres, uprated suspension, new front wings and 'custom adhesive bonding for increased body shell rigidity' feature there.
MY2015 Nissan GT-R updates
A little more GT and little less R says Nissan with the latest R35 update
Rays wheels mark out the NISMO track edition
Building on last year's revisions that had a similar intention, the GT-R should now possess a 'more mature, civilised attitude'. The dampers have been modified to 'improve cornering stability' and reduce steering corrections on rough road, perhaps in response to the observations of tramlining in the current car. The material and inner structure of the tyres is also different to again improve stability and ride quality.
Nissan says the MY15 GT-R has 'retuned' engine and transmission management systems in that pursuit of greater mechanical refinement. The clearance between the the transaxle and driveshaft has been modified as well which aims to reduce vibration coming on and off the throttle. Interestingly, there is not even one additional horsepower. There, that's got your attention back. Now you'll remember the new flywheel housing bearing, optimised steering dynamic damper and new boot carpet material (really, that made the press release). Looks like there are some slightly fussier wheels available too.
Silica Bronze 45th Anniversary car just for Japan
In all honesty it doesn't sound like the GT-R will be suddenly being transformed into Continental GT by these latest updates. But a car that retains all we love about the GT-R with an additional layer of usability must surely be a good thing.
The MY2015 GT-R goes on sale in Japan next February. Full UK spec and prices are expected to be confirmed soon; for reference the MY14 car costs from £78,020 over here and we'd be surprised is next year's car was significantly more. And if you're wondering why there's a beige GT-R in the story, that's the MY15 '45th Anniversary' GT-R and the colour is in fact 'Silica Brass'. GT-R geeks will know it as the colour first seen on the 2001 R34 M-Spec, a car originally billed as the 'GT-R that satisfies the mature driver'. Who wants a Micra for the post office trip when you could use a GT-R? This new Silica Brass car is based on the Premium Edition GT-R and will be limited to just 45 suitably mature Japanese drivers.
Watch the launch film here.
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Discussion
crosseyedlion said:
That price is eye-watering when you think of the other new vehicles 80k will buy.
Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
There is nothing at 80k, let alone 50k, that is a reasonable alternative. Nothing is as fast and yet as usable or involving. Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
Fast Audi? Too ordinary.
Porsche? Too slow. A bit predictable.
Maserati? Not raw enough. Much slower.
There is nothing really like a GT-R to compare it with. So even at 80K, its a steal for the performance it offers
You haven't driven one have you?
toppstuff said:
There is nothing at 80k, let alone 50k, that is a reasonable alternative. Nothing is as fast and yet as usable or involving.
Fast Audi? Too ordinary.
Porsche? Too slow. A bit predictable.
Maserati? Not raw enough. Much slower.
There is nothing really like a GT-R to compare it with. So even at 80K, its a steal for the performance it offers
You haven't driven one have you?
I agree with you that they are good value and a 911 Carrera 4 is a similar price. However I agree with the other guy that even taking into account inflation they've added about £20K to the price it was at launch. I guess they've not done that with the GT-R because is still has no real competition and possibly the Yen has got stronger since 2009? It's still a good deal though.Fast Audi? Too ordinary.
Porsche? Too slow. A bit predictable.
Maserati? Not raw enough. Much slower.
There is nothing really like a GT-R to compare it with. So even at 80K, its a steal for the performance it offers
You haven't driven one have you?
I wonder if Nissan have started developing an R36 GT-R?
Ex Boy Racer said:
Just couldn't get over the transmission making that rattling noise when I drove one. Sounded like a bag of spanners.
I like my fast cars to be smooth
Sounds like the bellhousing,a well known issue with the GTR. Re-engineered exchange units are available for about £750.I like my fast cars to be smooth
Mine was fine and quiet as a mouse.
toppstuff said:
iloveboost said:
I wonder if Nissan have started developing an R36 GT-R?
They have started on the R36. Its gonna be a petrol - electric hybrid. I am thinking Mclaren P1 / La Ferrari performance at a 1/10th the price.
Could be a game changer.
If she's as big as the R35, 4WS would be good also.
iloveboost said:
I agree with you that they are good value and a 911 Carrera 4 is a similar price. However I agree with the other guy that even taking into account inflation they've added about £20K to the price it was at launch. I guess they've not done that with the GT-R because is still has no real competition and possibly the Yen has got stronger since 2009? It's still a good deal though.
I wonder if Nissan have started developing an R36 GT-R?
It's gone up BECAUSE of the refinements and performance enhancements... It's only natural. Look at the Turbo S it's 20K more than a spec'd GT3? I wonder if Nissan have started developing an R36 GT-R?
toppstuff said:
crosseyedlion said:
That price is eye-watering when you think of the other new vehicles 80k will buy.
Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
There is nothing at 80k, let alone 50k, that is a reasonable alternative. Nothing is as fast and yet as usable or involving. Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
Fast Audi? Too ordinary.
Porsche? Too slow. A bit predictable.
Maserati? Not raw enough. Much slower.
There is nothing really like a GT-R to compare it with. So even at 80K, its a steal for the performance it offers
You haven't driven one have you?
The truth is that ALL things considered they are a bargain!
I have to say that I have always considered them more GT than anything else, it`s the Playstation people who assume that they are amazing at absolutely everything.
don logan said:
toppstuff said:
crosseyedlion said:
That price is eye-watering when you think of the other new vehicles 80k will buy.
Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
There is nothing at 80k, let alone 50k, that is a reasonable alternative. Nothing is as fast and yet as usable or involving. Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
Fast Audi? Too ordinary.
Porsche? Too slow. A bit predictable.
Maserati? Not raw enough. Much slower.
There is nothing really like a GT-R to compare it with. So even at 80K, its a steal for the performance it offers
You haven't driven one have you?
The truth is that ALL things considered they are a bargain!
I have to say that I have always considered them more GT than anything else, it`s the Playstation people who assume that they are amazing at absolutely everything.
My point is that at 80k, It shouldn't be all about performance, you can go fast for much less. Something's completely missing for me - If I had to buy new I'd rather an Ftype, XKR-S, 911 or AMG Merc. Granted some might see those as boring choices, but I'd view the GTR the same.
I think its to do with perceived brand value or something, I dont buy cars to be seen - but I just couldn't deal with the fact I'd bought an 80k mass-produced nissan.
HOWEVER, at low 50's they suddenly start to make complete sense (to me) - each to their own n'all that.
crosseyedlion said:
don logan said:
toppstuff said:
crosseyedlion said:
That price is eye-watering when you think of the other new vehicles 80k will buy.
Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
There is nothing at 80k, let alone 50k, that is a reasonable alternative. Nothing is as fast and yet as usable or involving. Could not be less keen. At 50k yes.
Fast Audi? Too ordinary.
Porsche? Too slow. A bit predictable.
Maserati? Not raw enough. Much slower.
There is nothing really like a GT-R to compare it with. So even at 80K, its a steal for the performance it offers
You haven't driven one have you?
The truth is that ALL things considered they are a bargain!
I have to say that I have always considered them more GT than anything else, it`s the Playstation people who assume that they are amazing at absolutely everything.
My point is that at 80k, It shouldn't be all about performance, you can go fast for much less. Something's completely missing for me - If I had to buy new I'd rather an Ftype, XKR-S, 911 or AMG Merc. Granted some might see those as boring choices, but I'd view the GTR the same.
I think its to do with perceived brand value or something, I dont buy cars to be seen - but I just couldn't deal with the fact I'd bought an 80k mass-produced nissan.
HOWEVER, at low 50's they suddenly start to make complete sense (to me) - each to their own n'all that.
If I wanted a car to be seen in I definitely wouldn`t buy a GTR though it amazes me how much attention they get even in Central London where things like 458s are all over the place.
Speaking of mass produced, I`m sure 996/997 T sales were WAAAAAAY ahead of GTR sales
Boonster said:
There is a £50k alternative, it's called a used GTR
If you start going into used options it gets even worse. I'd rather a Ferrari 550/575 than a new GTR. But that's irrelevant. A used one at 50k theres a load of other interesting machinery too. But thats not the point - we're talking about 80k for a new car. 50-55k for a new GTR and it makes sense (to me) 80k for one and its barmy.
crosseyedlion said:
Boonster said:
There is a £50k alternative, it's called a used GTR
If you start going into used options it gets even worse. I'd rather a Ferrari 550/575 than a new GTR. But that's irrelevant. A used one at 50k theres a load of other interesting machinery too. But thats not the point - we're talking about 80k for a new car. 50-55k for a new GTR and it makes sense (to me) 80k for one and its barmy.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...
Suddenly the £80k GTR seems too cheap to be true!
foxhounduk said:
Please bring back the "Skyline" moniker.
There is not a single car name in the whole industry, in my opinion, that evokes so much emotion or opinion.
'Skyline' is not really much different to names like 'Cortina' or 'Sierra' in the way that it has been used. For many non-Japanese the 'Skyline' name seems to conjure up thoughts of what the 'Skyline GT-R' name came to signify, as though 'Skyline' = 'GT-R'. It never did.There is not a single car name in the whole industry, in my opinion, that evokes so much emotion or opinion.
The names 'Lotus Cortina' and 'Sierra Cosworth' work in a similar way.
Nissan is now using the 'GT-R' moniker on it's own, and - whilst it saddens some - that makes sense. From C10-series Skylines through to R34-series Skylines, it was always the 'GT-R' moniker that signified the special one.
You can still buy a new Skyline if you really want one.
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