Winkle Brown of radio2
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Why they don't sit this guy down and just let him talk,and record the lot.
My god what a life,he is liking a walking Wiki.
No honours, nothing, run around a track or ride a bike, you get knighted.
Jeremy Vine had to fit as many questions in short time,still mind boggling,should have done the whole show.
I actually feel humbled.
My god what a life,he is liking a walking Wiki.
No honours, nothing, run around a track or ride a bike, you get knighted.
Jeremy Vine had to fit as many questions in short time,still mind boggling,should have done the whole show.
I actually feel humbled.
Very lucid at 95 years of age. Perhaps he could have his own show on the Light programme? Certainly more interesting to listen to than any of the established "presenters",
Edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04njj9y 1hr 33min onwards
Edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04njj9y 1hr 33min onwards
Edited by V8 Fettler on Friday 28th November 08:48
Just found this DVD: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Winkle-Interview-Captain-M...
Eric Mc said:
I listened to the interview. Why won't they ask him anything about his test flying career? After all, that is chiefly why he is famous?
They seem to be completely obsessed by the fact that he met a few Nazis.
Because Joe Public isn't interested in 1940s/1950s test flying. So the media pick the woo bit.They seem to be completely obsessed by the fact that he met a few Nazis.
And they never will if the media don't take the initiative a bit.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter to the excitement or thrill of a story if the listener doesn't really know what an Me262 or an Me163 looks like - but if the pilot has had a bit of an adventure in one, then THAT is what makes the story exciting.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter to the excitement or thrill of a story if the listener doesn't really know what an Me262 or an Me163 looks like - but if the pilot has had a bit of an adventure in one, then THAT is what makes the story exciting.
You are missing the point I am making.
Many people might LEARN about new things from TV or radio. I learned an awful lot about science, space and aviation from watching TV and listening to the radio.
The programme makers would be doing a service by introducing people to the excitement of some of these stories. The BBC in particular have an obligation under their charter to inform, entertain and EDUCATE so they should make that extra effort.
Good TV and radio is not just pandering to what you THINK your audience might be interested in or already know. Now and then you should try to introduce them to something new. They might even enjoy it,.
Many people might LEARN about new things from TV or radio. I learned an awful lot about science, space and aviation from watching TV and listening to the radio.
The programme makers would be doing a service by introducing people to the excitement of some of these stories. The BBC in particular have an obligation under their charter to inform, entertain and EDUCATE so they should make that extra effort.
Good TV and radio is not just pandering to what you THINK your audience might be interested in or already know. Now and then you should try to introduce them to something new. They might even enjoy it,.
Eric Mc said:
You are missing the point I am making.
Many people might LEARN about new things from TV or radio. I learned an awful lot about science, space and aviation from watching TV and listening to the radio.
The programme makers would be doing a service by introducing people to the excitement of some of these stories. The BBC in particular have an obligation under their charter to inform, entertain and EDUCATE so they should make that extra effort.
Good TV and radio is not just pandering to what you THINK your audience might be interested in or already know. Now and then you should try to introduce them to something new. They might even enjoy it,.
What Eric said; there aren't many, if any, areas of Brown's working life that aren't fascinating as part of history, particularly the crossover between the UK's wartime industry and the headlong and breathless technological advance of the 1950s and 1960s. Many people might LEARN about new things from TV or radio. I learned an awful lot about science, space and aviation from watching TV and listening to the radio.
The programme makers would be doing a service by introducing people to the excitement of some of these stories. The BBC in particular have an obligation under their charter to inform, entertain and EDUCATE so they should make that extra effort.
Good TV and radio is not just pandering to what you THINK your audience might be interested in or already know. Now and then you should try to introduce them to something new. They might even enjoy it,.
Agree entirely, but the point I am making is that the majority of the population don't give a monkeys about what some old chap did 70 years ago. Sad but true. If it wasn't true, it would be primetime viewing. But it isn't. The residents of this forum are the exception, not the rule. You learned science because you were interested in it. Me too. But most people think science is boring and hard.
Yes, in the 1930s and probably up to the 1970s the Beeb rerepsented the benevolent paternal State and tried to edumacate the masses. Now they don't, much. Maybe because they have to keep up with commercial TV and the programme with the most whizz-bangs gets the most ratings. And if you try to get them interested in something a bit more esoteric, it has to be dumbed down to the point where you and I get cross.
So you have to figure out why more people know about Strictly and the latest boyband, and not what Eric Brown did in 1941 (take a clipboard into the streets). Mr Brown did more in a day than any boyband will do in a lifetime - but that doesn't seem to get any votes.
Yes, in the 1930s and probably up to the 1970s the Beeb rerepsented the benevolent paternal State and tried to edumacate the masses. Now they don't, much. Maybe because they have to keep up with commercial TV and the programme with the most whizz-bangs gets the most ratings. And if you try to get them interested in something a bit more esoteric, it has to be dumbed down to the point where you and I get cross.
So you have to figure out why more people know about Strictly and the latest boyband, and not what Eric Brown did in 1941 (take a clipboard into the streets). Mr Brown did more in a day than any boyband will do in a lifetime - but that doesn't seem to get any votes.
The point I was trying to make, and I think Eric was too, is that the level of interest in him having interviewed Goering is no more or less than that in his exploits as a test pilot. Both are equally extraordinary and far from Joe average's experience, but some BBC wonk has decided to pre-filter the content and remove that which didn't interest him/her. 'Nazis! OMG!' is a bad premise for editorial decisions.
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