Who's right ?

[R_U_LOCAL]

You seem to be making a very large meal out of this.

What is so difficult about approaching in lane 3, staying in lane 3, lane 3 becomes lane 2 after the second exit, stay in lane 2, then exit - still in lane 2? Job jobbed.

No lane changes part-way round the junction and no conflict with other road users. Just, in fact, how the roundabout was designed to work.

[TooMany2cvs]

Chipper said:

TooMany2cvs said:

So you went "Oh, look, he's in the wrong lane and trying to move over - I'll ease off and give him space..."?

Oh god have you nothing better to do than this. Is this what makes you feel important in life? I've come on here to try to find someone who has proper knowledge on car positioning like a traffic officer or advanced driving instructor not to have to read what you feel happened .

<shrug> Look, it's very simple.

You disagreed with somebody's lane choice. Whether he made the right choice, whether he made a genuine error, or whether he made a wrong choice is actually beside the point, because you decided to block him, turning it into a situation. Right now, you're just looking for justification. Well, here's some news for you - it ain't happening, because the greater sin was not his - whether it was a genuine error or a deliberate wrong choice.

If you want to have a pop at somebody, look a bit closer to home instead of shooting the messenger.

[Chipper]

Following the line and looking at it I think you are right, L3 all the way round and just ignore L2. The difficulty is I think most people including myself try to get in the appropriate lane straight away instead of just letting the roundabout naturally point you in the correct direction. Lesson learnt.

[Chipper]

TooMany2cvs said:

<shrug> Look, it's very simple.

You disagreed with somebody's lane choice. Whether he made the right choice, whether he made a genuine error, or whether he made a wrong choice is actually beside the point, because you decided to block him, turning it into a situation. Right now, you're just looking for justification. Well, here's some news for you - it ain't happening, because the greater sin was not his - whether it was a genuine error or a deliberate wrong choice.

If you want to have a pop at somebody, look a bit closer to home instead of shooting the messenger.

Have you read what I stated ? You seem to just think I got in some kind of aggressive macho competition with the L3 driver. You just seem to want to have a dig at me because for some reason you now feel you know exactly what happened?

I admit looking at it that putting confrontation in the start of the thread might of not been the best start but as I finished it with "have a typical Pistonhead build" I thought it would of been seen in jest and all I wanted to find out what was the correct position. When pushed on this matter by you I said it wasn't like that but instead you had already decided the outcome that I was some knuckle fisted driver that wanted to prove a point. Nothing could be further from the truth but hey ho you had decided.

At no point have I come across as someone who wants to justify his lane position. In fact I have stated that I'm quite prepared to be told that L3 is the proper lane to be in. THIS was for my safety and other road users. There is an issue at this entrance of the roundabout, regardless of who is right or wrong the majority of drivers seem to take L2 which could lead to an accident or worryingly a serious confrontation.

So all I wanted to do is find out from people who should know the correct way and maybe see if something can be improved. I feel apart from that comment at the start which was an error on my part as I didn't realise that people were so judging ( I would worry if you were a police officer ) that I have come across as someone who genuinely wanted to find an answer so an incident didn't happen in the future.

This is my last comment on this matter and I think I will avoid using this section for advice in the future.

Should add that I do appreciate the input from other users and I'll be using L3 from now on.

[TooMany2cvs]

Chipper said:

Have you read what I stated ?

Yes, thank you.

Chipper said:

You seem to just think I got in some kind of aggressive macho competition with the L3 driver.

You told us you did in the very first post...

Chipper said:

I should add that I got into a good confrontation this morning

then you told us again in your second post to the thread...
[quote]I should add that my confrontation this morning was simply someone who decided to prove a point by trying to push me into into Lane 1 .. It was only when he got so close to my window that he calmed down.

See what I mean about taking two to play pushy-shovey?

Chipper said:

You just seem to want to have a dig at me because for some reason you now feel you know exactly what happened?

I only know what you've told us.

Chipper said:

I have come across as someone who genuinely wanted to find an answer so an incident didn't happen in the future.

Great. Now you know. If somebody else is doing something daft, give them space and let them - no confrontation, no pushy-shovey, no insurance claim if NEITHER of you give in... It really is that easy.

[Eurosausage]

I know this is a few months old now, but I am local and use this roundabout daily.

Lanes 1 and 2 are clearly marked 'IKEA'. They both are for taking the first exit. Lane 1 will take you to ASDA, lane 2 will take you to ALDI and the big housing estate. Lane 3 is the correct lane to be in when you want to get to Morrisons, Penarth etc.

The dotted lines seem blindingly obvious, however there are a lot of people who cut across from lane 2, over the dotted lane line, cutting up people correctly queuing in lane 3. I've seen so many near misses, it's made doubly dangerous by the turn, which puts the morons in lane 2 in the blind spot of the lane 3 driver.

[mph999]

TBF, some of these 'turbo' roundabouts are a pain, all you need is one driver who is not familiar with it. It's made especially harder if it's busy and the lines of traffic make it harder to see the road markings in advance. I've on occasion been known to go all the way round to work out how it's meant to work - kinda figure in the outside lane (rightmost) you can only get attacked from one side ...

I won't mention the time they mis-painted the road markings on J11 of the M4. Lane 2 on approach to you into lane 2 on the roundabout as expected, but the markings from lane 3 on approach also tried to funnel you into lane 2, instead of lane 3.

[Pints]

mph999 said:

TBF, some of these 'turbo' roundabouts are a pain, all you need is one driver who is not familiar with it. It's made especially harder if it's busy and the lines of traffic make it harder to see the road markings in advance. I've on occasion been known to go all the way round to work out how it's meant to work - kinda figure in the outside lane (rightmost) you can only get attacked from one side ...

I won't mention the time they mis-painted the road markings on J11 of the M4. Lane 2 on approach to you into lane 2 on the roundabout as expected, but the markings from lane 3 on approach also tried to funnel you into lane 2, instead of lane 3.

I see you, and raise you the Aztec West roundabout markings on the A38 in Bristol.