Buying a mini - engine noise advice

Buying a mini - engine noise advice

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Paul O

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182 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Hi folks, been to look at a mini. All looks spot on apart from one thing.

There is a slight noise coming from the engine at idle, which disappears when the clutch is engaged.

Hard to describe, it's a rattling type noise, only faint. Sort of a bearing or idly gear noise.

Is it common, expected, expensive?

Any advice much appreciated!

Thanks

Paul

Paul O

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182 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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2004, convertible. Mini one.

Thanks.

Paul O

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182 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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Thanks K, brand new to minis so know nothing of them. Google seems to return searches of being minor jobs like the release baring to major doom stories :-s. The car otherwise is absolutely great for it's age. Lots of history, well looked after.

What sort of cost, worst case scinareo, any ideas?

Gonna pull the trigger on Monday, depending what info I can find prior.

Thanks again.

Feirny

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146 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
It sounds faintly like a release bearing, but any sort of gearbox noise on that gen. of car would have me walking the other way very quickly.

In case you aren't familiar, first gen. Ones and Coopers are famous for eating the 5-speed midland box.
With it being an R52 then it's most likely going to be the Getrag box in it, but it'll be the same fate it suffers and also a bit more difficult to source a second hand one.

I'd leave the car well alone.

Paul O

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Saturday 29th November 2014
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I are serious gearbox issues quite common, or could there be a more simple explanation?

Don't want to miss out on an otherwise good 'un, but equally if they are largely st then I'll head down a different car route.

What's worst case cost anyone? looking at gearbox replacements, perhaps £2k at worst?

Edited by Paul O on Saturday 29th November 21:07

jackh707

2,126 posts

155 months

Saturday 29th November 2014
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My R53 different box does this.

Pretty sure it's release bearings. If you let the clutch up slowly its not there. Has cause no problems whatsoever. But 2nd hand gearboxes are on eBay £300-£500. Reconditioned not much more.


Feirny

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146 months

Sunday 30th November 2014
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Paul O said:
I are serious gearbox issues quite common, or could there be a more simple explanation?

Don't want to miss out on an otherwise good 'un, but equally if they are largely st then I'll head down a different car route.

What's worst case cost anyone? looking at gearbox replacements, perhaps £2k at worst?
Depends who does the job. It could be a release bearing, but the more common fault is the diff bearing which is when things go bang.

  • this isn't a plug for business* but we sell the second hand boxes for £720 and we have a waiting list. So a new clutch and fitting on top and you're looking the wrong side of £1500.
Once sorted it won't go again in your ownership unless you're really unlucky.


jackh707 said:
My R53 different box does this.

Pretty sure it's release bearings. If you let the clutch up slowly its not there. Has cause no problems whatsoever. But 2nd hand gearboxes are on eBay £300-£500. Reconditioned not much more.
The ones at £300 will be the midland box, they're easier to get hold of.


Paul O

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Sunday 30th November 2014
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Thanks Fierny, how long is it likely to last currently if that is the fault, any idea? Test driving tomorrow, is there anything to look out for that would point one way or the other as to the fault?
Not sounding like modern minis are built too well though :-s

Thanks!

Feirny

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146 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Paul O said:
Thanks Fierny, how long is it likely to last currently if that is the fault, any idea? Test driving tomorrow, is there anything to look out for that would point one way or the other as to the fault?
Not sounding like modern minis are built too well though :-s

Thanks!
How did it go? Sorry for not getting back sooner. They can last a fair amount of time but it really is down to luck. The noise tends to get louder, the worse it is.

Paul O

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Friday 5th December 2014
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Feirny said:
How did it go? Sorry for not getting back sooner. They can last a fair amount of time but it really is down to luck. The noise tends to get louder, the worse it is.
No worries mate, thanks for your input so far. We went for it in the end! I read some reports that say the noise is showing the gearbox is on it's way out, others saying some gearboxes are noisey with no issues and enough reports to suggest that all mini gearboxes are crap.

So I thought "what the hell" and took a gamble on a car that was otherwise perfect. Time will tell I guess but at about £1,500 for a worst case job, it's still less than half the price of the last service on my Porsche and I have to say I'm loving it so far.

It's a full on girls car by day to look at, but by night it's a lovely little mini Supercar. So revvy, noisy, brilliant handling little thing. It has all the qualities you want from a sporty little thing, except when you look at the digits and you are really not going fast at all. Like a go-kart.

Superb fun!!