Run red light and crashed ....
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I was turning right from a side road onto a D/C and I had a green light but a vehicle came from left to right, through a red light and collided with me... Other driver DID stop
I did phone the police but as we were not blocking the road or there were any (apparent) injuries and (unfortunately) as I did not mention on the phone that the other driver ran the red, the police concluded that they did not need to attend and they we were to sort out via insurance... which is going through now (£2,100 worth of damage)
Just come back from the police station to report the other driver and I showed them my in-car video which clearly shows my green and his red light before colliding. They have decided that they now need to compile a collision report with a view to sending out a NIP.
So, the question is... would the driver be reported for a) simply running a red light; b) Driving without Due Care or c) Dangerous driving....
I did phone the police but as we were not blocking the road or there were any (apparent) injuries and (unfortunately) as I did not mention on the phone that the other driver ran the red, the police concluded that they did not need to attend and they we were to sort out via insurance... which is going through now (£2,100 worth of damage)
Just come back from the police station to report the other driver and I showed them my in-car video which clearly shows my green and his red light before colliding. They have decided that they now need to compile a collision report with a view to sending out a NIP.
So, the question is... would the driver be reported for a) simply running a red light; b) Driving without Due Care or c) Dangerous driving....
BO55 VXR said:
I was turning right from a side road onto a D/C and I had a green light but a vehicle came from left to right, through a red light and collided with me... Other driver DID stop
I did phone the police but as we were not blocking the road or there were any (apparent) injuries and (unfortunately) as I did not mention on the phone that the other driver ran the red, the police concluded that they did not need to attend and they we were to sort out via insurance... which is going through now (£2,100 worth of damage)
Just come back from the police station to report the other driver and I showed them my in-car video which clearly shows my green and his red light before colliding. They have decided that they now need to compile a collision report with a view to sending out a NIP.
So, the question is... would the driver be reported for a) simply running a red light; b) Driving without Due Care or c) Dangerous driving....
Sounds like due car to me.I did phone the police but as we were not blocking the road or there were any (apparent) injuries and (unfortunately) as I did not mention on the phone that the other driver ran the red, the police concluded that they did not need to attend and they we were to sort out via insurance... which is going through now (£2,100 worth of damage)
Just come back from the police station to report the other driver and I showed them my in-car video which clearly shows my green and his red light before colliding. They have decided that they now need to compile a collision report with a view to sending out a NIP.
So, the question is... would the driver be reported for a) simply running a red light; b) Driving without Due Care or c) Dangerous driving....
Bad luck mate.
BO55 VXR said:
and I showed them my in-car video which clearly shows my green and his red light before colliding. They have decided that they now need to compile a collision report with a view to sending out a NIP.
Good.At least that prick isn't getting away with it then. I hope they throw the book at him.
I had exactly the same happen to me, and through sheer good fortune the car following the one which collided with me was being driven by an off-duty police inspector! Good fortune, since the 3rd party initially tried to claim that his lights were green as well as mine being. He had 3 or 4 different devices stuck on his screen with suction holders and I'm 99% sure he was fiddling with one and didn't see the lights.
The inspector rang for a local unit to attend the scene and after breathalysing us both they stuck him on, at the scene. I never did find out whether it was DWDCA or DD though.
Re insurance, by the time I got home, HIS insurance had called me and since they knew they were bang to rights, they wanted to handle it all themselves without using my insurance company or a claims mgmt company. On the basis of how much they would save, the insurance company bent over backwards to sort it all with minimum fuss and made a very good job of everything - might be worth trying that tack if it's not too late?
The inspector rang for a local unit to attend the scene and after breathalysing us both they stuck him on, at the scene. I never did find out whether it was DWDCA or DD though.
Re insurance, by the time I got home, HIS insurance had called me and since they knew they were bang to rights, they wanted to handle it all themselves without using my insurance company or a claims mgmt company. On the basis of how much they would save, the insurance company bent over backwards to sort it all with minimum fuss and made a very good job of everything - might be worth trying that tack if it's not too late?
CAPP0 said:
I had exactly the same happen to me, and through sheer good fortune the car following the one which collided with me was being driven by an off-duty police inspector! Good fortune, since the 3rd party initially tried to claim that his lights were green as well as mine being. He had 3 or 4 different devices stuck on his screen with suction holders and I'm 99% sure he was fiddling with one and didn't see the lights.
The inspector rang for a local unit to attend the scene and after breathalysing us both they stuck him on, at the scene. I never did find out whether it was DWDCA or DD though.
Re insurance, by the time I got home, HIS insurance had called me and since they knew they were bang to rights, they wanted to handle it all themselves without using my insurance company or a claims mgmt company. On the basis of how much they would save, the insurance company bent over backwards to sort it all with minimum fuss and made a very good job of everything - might be worth trying that tack if it's not too late?
Already sorting through insurance... Other driver denied going through red light and have since received letter from his insurer laying the blame fully on me... but as I have video proof, i would like to see there face when they see it... The inspector rang for a local unit to attend the scene and after breathalysing us both they stuck him on, at the scene. I never did find out whether it was DWDCA or DD though.
Re insurance, by the time I got home, HIS insurance had called me and since they knew they were bang to rights, they wanted to handle it all themselves without using my insurance company or a claims mgmt company. On the basis of how much they would save, the insurance company bent over backwards to sort it all with minimum fuss and made a very good job of everything - might be worth trying that tack if it's not too late?
BTW... Would that also amount to insurance fraud by reporting incorrect facts.
BTW2... The offending driver was a parcel delivery driver...
BO55 VXR said:
BTW... Would that also amount to insurance fraud by reporting incorrect facts.
BTW2... The offending driver was a parcel delivery driver...
Probably not, he could say "well I definitely THOUGHT they were green, I must have made a mistake". On the second point, I have a feeling that these guys are on a "x strikes and you're out" system for fault claims? BTW2... The offending driver was a parcel delivery driver...
Given how easy it is to apply post production effects to videos and photos (e.g. the mash-ups of the new Star Wars trailer appearing just a day after it's release) - how can the police rely on 3rd party video evidence that could quite easily have been tampered with ? In this case it would be relatively easy to change the red lights to green and vice versa, note that I'm not suggesting that the OP has done this, just wondering out loud.
BO55 VXR said:
Pothole said:
Make sure you have a couple of good clear copies of the video saved on different media just in case.
Got a Blackvue DR500GW-HD and great quality and stored in plenty of places...Also got pics of the scene too, including final position and other vehicle/driver
I got taken out by a "Libyan-Italian" chap on my motorcycle a few years ago. He was fleeing from having stabbed someone in a pub, in a stolen car. I went through a crossroads on green and he ran the light from my right, pitched me and the bike in the air, then drove off. Luckily (perhaps) there was a Police van 3 cars behind him which gave chase and it was all sorted out eventually. (I say 'perhaps' because he might have been spooked into running the light by the van.)
rasto said:
Given how easy it is to apply post production effects to videos and photos (e.g. the mash-ups of the new Star Wars trailer appearing just a day after it's release) - how can the police rely on 3rd party video evidence that could quite easily have been tampered with ? In this case it would be relatively easy to change the red lights to green and vice versa, note that I'm not suggesting that the OP has done this, just wondering out loud.
You do have a very valid point, however, if the offending person feels that the evidence has been tampered with, it is actually it is possible, with the right tools and skills to validate the authenticity by looking at the underlying bit-stream as the "blending" would be skewed which, whilst not visible to the naked eye is clearly visible in the data.ETA: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3975285/how-do-...
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