45k Volvo 460 Si - Concours

45k Volvo 460 Si - Concours

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jonamv8

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3,151 posts

166 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Hi,

A friend in his 90s has been told to get off the road! He has a concours condition 460, bought new in 92, FMDSH, more stamps than I can count!

Its a unique offering, where would you guys put this for sale? For the right buyer its a great car, collection worthy. Although I know they are not in high demand I said I'd try PH to help a friend.

Cheers

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Car and classic website - it won't be worth a fortune though - the 400 series whilst better than something like an escort in its day was quite simply the worst volvo they have ever made

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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morgrp said:
Car and classic website - it won't be worth a fortune though - the 400 series whilst better than something like an escort in its day was quite simply the worst volvo they have ever made
Worse than the DAF based 300 series? I guess that was RWD at least.

I have a horrible feeling this will sell for little more than a knackered one, best you can hope for (if you care about the car that is) is that it might find someone to look after it well rather than just run it on bangernomics principles. You'd have to go a long way to find a less desirable car than a Volvo 400 series biggrin

Elderly

3,493 posts

238 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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dme123 said:
Worse than the DAF based 300 series? ?................ You'd have to go a long way to find a less desirable car than a Volvo 400 series biggrin
The wife’s 345 - bought 3 years old 30K miles, Full Volvo Service History.

It was very inexpensive as the body had several small dings and dents (it had lived opposite a pub in London).

I won’t go into the list of its ongoing problems whilst we struggled to keep it on the road, but by the time we came to get rid of it about 3 years later, the engine was f*(ked; it burned/lost huge quantities of oil, lost water, had almost no power, and made alarming rumbling noises.

The windows would not wind down (yes wind), the exterior driver’s door handle
had broken off, and the whole thing was starting to rust badly.

At the time, I was buying a Volvo estate from a main dealer and had already negotiated a good price on the condition of no part exchange.

Whilst I was hesitating to sign, the dealer asked what else he could do to finally persuade me. I said take my wife’s Volvo in part exchange.

He asked me all about it and I told him every detail of the ugly truth.
The dealer principlal appeared and said that he had never heard anybody run down their own car before to such a degree and said he would do something he’d never done before and that was if I signed for the estate there and then, he would give me £500 for the 345 without seeing it, if I could get the car to him.

When the salesman and the dealer principal saw it (when I collected my other car) their faces
dropped and told me that my description was SO bad that they just didn’t believe my description, after all, how could a 6 year old, 60K mile, 2 Owner Volvo with FDSH be like that?



Aerate

264 posts

148 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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And it sounds like that was a manual. I had the pleasure of my mum's 345 auto after I learned to drive. Mmmmmm Variomatic!

Aerate

264 posts

148 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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And it sounds like that was a manual. I had the pleasure of my mum's 345 auto after I learned to drive. Mmmmmm Variomatic!

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Elderly said:
dme123 said:
Worse than the DAF based 300 series? ?................ You'd have to go a long way to find a less desirable car than a Volvo 400 series biggrin
The wife’s 345 - bought 3 years old 30K miles, Full Volvo Service History.

It was very inexpensive as the body had several small dings and dents (it had lived opposite a pub in London).

I won’t go into the list of its ongoing problems whilst we struggled to keep it on the road, but by the time we came to get rid of it about 3 years later, the engine was f*(ked; it burned/lost huge quantities of oil, lost water, had almost no power, and made alarming rumbling noises.

The windows would not wind down (yes wind), the exterior driver’s door handle
had broken off, and the whole thing was starting to rust badly.

At the time, I was buying a Volvo estate from a main dealer and had already negotiated a good price on the condition of no part exchange.

Whilst I was hesitating to sign, the dealer asked what else he could do to finally persuade me. I said take my wife’s Volvo in part exchange.

He asked me all about it and I told him every detail of the ugly truth.
The dealer principlal appeared and said that he had never heard anybody run down their own car before to such a degree and said he would do something he’d never done before and that was if I signed for the estate there and then, he would give me £500 for the 345 without seeing it, if I could get the car to him.

When the salesman and the dealer principal saw it (when I collected my other car) their faces
dropped and told me that my description was SO bad that they just didn’t believe my description, after all, how could a 6 year old, 60K mile, 2 Owner Volvo with FDSH be like that?
I remember those things being everywhere in the 80s and 90s and they all seemed to totally vanish overnight. I never had the pleasure of one, but always assumed that even if it was crap to drive it would at least be built like a real Volvo, but from your story possibly not!

ben5732

763 posts

156 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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My old man had two 340s and they where fairly reliable also both of them saved our bacon. First crash involved a group of bikes clipping each other at speed one of which smacked into the A pillar which actually split in half but the bike didn't penetrate the vehicle (sadly the rider was killed) Next one a 4x4 decided to overtake someone on a blind bend resulting in a head on collision. Somehow walked away from that one with nothing more that whiplash and glass everywhere.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Aerate said:
And it sounds like that was a manual. I had the pleasure of my mum's 345 auto after I learned to drive. Mmmmmm Variomatic!
I'd love a Variomatic - 80mph on reverse anyone? Due to a wiring problem located in the front wing on the early cars they had a habit of driving themselves off in the winter when people started them up and left them warming up on the driveway.

Going back to my original post, yes the 400 was easily worse than the 300 series - but that said , with both models the later cars were VAST improvements over the earlier ones - I had 360 - pukka motor - I power slid that fker everywhere - injected 115bhp engine was almost as quick as a golf gti in the day

Edited by morgrp on Tuesday 9th December 21:29

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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ben5732 said:
My old man had two 340s and they where fairly reliable also both of them saved our bacon. First crash involved a group of bikes clipping each other at speed one of which smacked into the A pillar which actually split in half but the bike didn't penetrate the vehicle (sadly the rider was killed) Next one a 4x4 decided to overtake someone on a blind bend resulting in a head on collision. Somehow walked away from that one with nothing more that whiplash and glass everywhere.
They had triple skinned front wings always remember the Jeremy clarkson vid when he deliberately crashed a 340 - I'm seemed to remember him saying something along the lines of "there is a blue peter recipe for making a volvo 300, you need a washing bottle, some sticky back plastic and two tons of pig iron!"

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Did you shift this in the end?

jonamv8

Original Poster:

3,151 posts

166 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Funnily enough someone viewing it tonight!