Help please , worried about...

Help please , worried about...

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Nero601

Original Poster:

1,566 posts

196 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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a Car I saw today , it is a Sylva Striker (not sure which Mk) but on the V5 it is a 'Dutton' and first registered in 84 (iirc from looking at docs) , it has passed an MOT in the last few days with no advisories , it has been well put together as far as I can see , and drives very well , it rides better than my Cooper S !

Should I be worried about possible iva or any other issues ?

Should I run a Mile ?

thanks


Happy Jim

968 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Start jogging with purpose!

Keep your bargepole away from it.

Plenty of decent properly registered cars out there.

Jim

Frankthered

1,624 posts

180 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Happy Jim said:
Start jogging with purpose!

Keep your bargepole away from it.

Plenty of decent properly registered cars out there.

Jim
This!

Not worth it.

thescamper

920 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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OP Where was this car? I might be up for it

Fury1630

393 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Depends what you want, if you want to drive it on the road, it's probably best ignored. If you're thinking of racing it, then why not? If your plan is to strip it & re-build it to the IVA manual, then get it tested & registered properly then it's almost certainly cheaper than starting from scratch.

But there WILL be heartache along the way.

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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avoid...unless you get it so cheap that re-building it to IVA spec+IVA test will still safe you some money compared to a correctly registered one.

i guess the car is the usual oldschool live-axle striker with ford x/flow engine?

those are regulary for sale in top-nick for 3-4k....now start calculating!!


JohnEM

115 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Why OH! Why would someone have a V5 with Dutton on when it's a Sylva?
In my world a Sylva has a better pedigree than a Dutton! go on post a picture and we will tell you what it is.
P.S. most Strikers use Ford uprights front and rear with the distinctive rocker style/inboard shocks at the front.
John

Nero601

Original Poster:

1,566 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Thanks for all the input chaps , i want to run it on the road , if i was going to just race it , I would not be so worried.
it is up for 4750 , it does use ford uprights and it is running a 1400 k series with a hybrid ford/rover clutch !.

don't think it is fair to name and shame so i won't

the search will continue it seems , not many slyas about though , unless someone knows otherwise ?

cheers


RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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why?

because the car was built after SVA/ IVA test was established.

so the builder could built it in a rather easy way, not following any actual rules (IVA), finally he also saved the fee´s for the test and re-test.

buying a dutton and scrap it is still cheaper than building a kitcar to the actual laws.

its totally illegal and such cars need to be avoided unless they cost next to nothing.


i always wonder why peole still buy and sell such cars?

would anybody buy a VW Golf with a Vauxhall Corsa V5c?




PaulKemp

979 posts

145 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Apart from the illegal registration it will also invalidate your insurance if it is incorrectly registered
It is no different to ringing a car

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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sounds like an older striker, ex-crossflow, rover k retrofitted?

live axle or IRS? nose and bonnet in 1 piece or 2 pieces?

IMO, thats about 2.5k too expensive..if it would be correctly registered maybe 4k...as "dutton" 2-2.5k

Nero601

Original Poster:

1,566 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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RochdaleGT said:
sounds like an older striker, ex-crossflow, rover k retrofitted?

live axle or IRS? nose and bonnet in 1 piece or 2 pieces?

IMO, thats about 2.5k too expensive..if it would be correctly registered maybe 4k...as "dutton" 2-2.5k
spot on chap , Spax all round and a 2 part nose/bonnet

thanks for taking the time to post chap smile


RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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2 part nose / bonnet is already RAW-Engineering, so a newer one or retro-fitted on an older car.


Nero601

Original Poster:

1,566 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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RochdaleGT said:
2 part nose / bonnet is already RAW-Engineering, so a newer one or retro-fitted on an older car.
I am going with retro fit and an older car , judging by what the builder has said.

trackerjack

649 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Interesting thread, a car is currently up for sale that I owned and was built in the 90's from a Sierra was registered as a 1973 1100 Ford!!! I knew this when I bought it but it was as cheap as chips so not a worry.
It is was fitted with a 2 litre Pinto to which I attached Kwaki XR6 bike carbs.
I sold the car in May 2010 and the present seller is making wild claims about its power which is only about 50 bhp less.

Buyer beware! however it only becomes a problem if someone alerts the powers that be, but do they care as long as tax gets payed?

Fastpedeller

3,872 posts

146 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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trackerjack said:
Buyer beware! however it only becomes a problem if someone alerts the powers that be, but do they care as long as tax gets payed?
Or there's an accident and the insurers notice!

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

223 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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or if the police scans the no.plate or during a traffic control...or at the next MOT if the tester is one of the stricter ones, or your neigbour is jealous and reports the car to the dvla or police.......there are several chances loosing the registration and getting fined!!!

total wrong approach / opinion "as long as its taxed, everything is fine"


a striker built from a sierra? no way, ok..engine gearbox was taken from a sierra, but if its really an oldschool live-axle one, all other components should have been escort. the V5c is definately escort!!

anyway...toally illegal nowadays!!




Edited by RochdaleGT on Tuesday 16th December 18:33

sospan

2,484 posts

222 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Have you done any checks with DVLA ?
Is the V5 a genuine one or a fake?
There was a theft of V5's a few years back which prompted the reissuing of new ones with a new colour.
This car smells a bit fishy!
Any paperwork re the original build?
Invoices from Sylva or Raw?