Trucks with side window curtains pulled nearly shut??

Trucks with side window curtains pulled nearly shut??

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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I'm doing a few more miles on the motorways to get to meetings these days, and have started to notice more oddities on the roads, one of which seems to be a trend, if you want to call it that, for truck drivers to have their cab side curtains pulled almost shut whilst they are driving along??

Without stereotyping too much, it usually seems to be the drivers who have tarted up Scania's and suchlike, covered in a hundred lights, bits of chrome, and frilly curtains.

I saw one today who had his seat quite far back and his side curtains almost shut to the A pillar, so you couldn't see him at all unless you looked into the cab through the windscreen.

I can't imagine this is particularly legal or indeed safe? Is it a fashion thing, privacy thing or just to stop sun getting in your eyes?

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

151 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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It's a fan boy thing to do.
Most other lorry drivers think it's a ttish thing to do as well.

leggly

1,787 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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You nailed it with Scania. laugh they're the Kings of the road don' cha know laugh

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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When I was in the USA, the "Bull Haulers" all drove either 379 Extended Hood Petes, or W900L KW's. They all had big shades, a big hat, loads of tat on their trucks and drove along with most of the air out of the seat, peering over the steering wheel. We laughed at them.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Willy Nilly said:
When I was in the USA, the "Bull Haulers" all drove either 379 Extended Hood Petes, or W900L KW's. They all had big shades, a big hat, loads of tat on their trucks and drove along with most of the air out of the seat, peering over the steering wheel. We laughed at them.
I laughed when I read that because it reminded me of this video on YouTube that I saw a few months ago. Skip to 1:30 ish for a better camera angle of the driver barely managing to peer over the dash.

http://youtu.be/KIw_ZfM26Hw

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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NinjaPower said:
Willy Nilly said:
When I was in the USA, the "Bull Haulers" all drove either 379 Extended Hood Petes, or W900L KW's. They all had big shades, a big hat, loads of tat on their trucks and drove along with most of the air out of the seat, peering over the steering wheel. We laughed at them.
I laughed when I read that because it reminded me of this video on YouTube that I saw a few months ago. Skip to 1:30 ish for a better camera angle of the driver barely managing to peer over the dash.

http://youtu.be/KIw_ZfM26Hw
He must spend all day changing gear.

I was driving Peterbilt 377's with 12.7 Detroits with 6 speed Allison autos. We would have come steaming past him with the combines on the trailers while he minced through 400 gear changes.

JoyDivision

904 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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NinjaPower said:
I laughed when I read that because it reminded me of this video on YouTube that I saw a few months ago. Skip to 1:30 ish for a better camera angle of the driver barely managing to peer over the dash.

http://youtu.be/KIw_ZfM26Hw
That`s some gear lever.

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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JoyDivision said:
That`s some gear lever.
That's nothing... In a later video the same chap has changed his shifter setup to 3 levers, just so he can look even cooler... rolleyes

Still can't see over the steering wheel!

http://youtu.be/8lEYaTvvq4g

jagracer

8,248 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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WTF is Jakebraking?

anonymous-user

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54 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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jagracer said:
WTF is Jakebraking?
My limited knowledge of trucks tells me it is just another name for exhaust braking.

Saves wear on the brake pads etc.

Martin4x4

6,506 posts

132 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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NinjaPower said:
I laughed when I read that because it reminded me of this video on YouTube that I saw a few months ago. Skip to 1:30 ish for a better camera angle of the driver barely managing to peer over the dash.

http://youtu.be/KIw_ZfM26Hw
WTF is he playing at with those gear changes and wat is the point of that gear stick?

jagracer

8,248 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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I've been driving trucks for over 45 years and I've never heard of it.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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jagracer said:
I've been driving trucks for over 45 years and I've never heard of it.
Trucks have had engine brakes since the 60's, the reason it's called Jake Braking is because in the US the main manufacturer of engine brakes was Jacobs, this was soon nicknamed the Jake Brake and the name stuck. Over there you can opt to have a certain manufacturers braking system whereas here you get whatever the truck maker fits, usually their own system.

Jake Braking is banned in a lot of built up areas because of the noise it makes through the straight through pipes most American trucks run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qocMoTOVn6Q

LikesBikes

1,439 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Isn't it a Jacob brake? Some sort of engine brake rather than an exhaust brake. One of the old boys explained it to me once, can't remember how it worked but something to do with valves in the head and compression in the cylinders.

Or I might be wrong?

chilistrucker

4,541 posts

151 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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StuntmanMike said:
It's a fan boy thing to do.
Most other lorry drivers think it's a ttish thing to do as well.
+1
It's pathetic and should be a nick. I'm all up for people looking after their motors, taking pride etc, but not when it's dangerous!

bigwheel

1,618 posts

214 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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LikesBikes said:
Isn't it a Jacob brake? Some sort of engine brake rather than an exhaust brake. One of the old boys explained it to me once, can't remember how it worked but something to do with valves in the head and compression in the cylinders.

Or I might be wrong?
You're right, there.

Cummins engines can have the Jacobs Brake system installed. Other engine makes might possibly be fitted.

The valves are disconnected from the camshaft, thus the pistons push against cylinder gases with nowhere to go.

By all accounts, it's a lot more effective than the usual Euro type of exhaust brake that just blocks the exhaust pipe after the manifold/turbo.


Cataldo

1,357 posts

194 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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bigwheel said:
You're right, there.

Cummins engines can have the Jacobs Brake system installed. Other engine makes might possibly be fitted.

The valves are disconnected from the camshaft, thus the pistons push against cylinder gases with nowhere to go.

By all accounts, it's a lot more effective than the usual Euro type of exhaust brake that just blocks the exhaust pipe after the manifold/turbo.
The old Foden's with CAT 6 banger's in had them too, never driven one but i'm told they're far more effective than our rubbish EU discount noise compliant exhaust stranglers. MAN's exhaust brake's were particularly useless on a full loaded artic IIRC. I've also heard them referred too as 'Retarder's' but not sure if that maybe refers to something else.

leggly

1,787 posts

211 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Jake brakes were a wonderful bit of kit. They make a lovely noise and actually slow you down, as opposed to a farting noise and bugger all else with an exhaust brake.

s p a c e m a n

10,777 posts

148 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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When does anyone look out of their side window when on a motorway? If they can still see the mirrors I can't see it being dangerous. I barely use the mirrors with all the cameras that we've got fitted on some of our trucks biggrin

LikesBikes

1,439 posts

236 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Perhaps they don't want us to see the bodies?