Storm disruption - mini cruise
Discussion
Nothing yet, but the doom mongers are suggesting these high winds and storms could be in until the other wide of christmas.
I'm due to Sail to Zeebrugge between now and Christmas with P&O which would include accomocation onboard overnight.
My hotel in Bruges was booked seperately and would be non refundable.
What would be the legal situation if the Ferry over were to be cancelled?
Would I have any protection against failing to get to my paid hotel?
Would alternqative accomodation for the night need to be provided as this was part of the package i booked?
I'm due to Sail to Zeebrugge between now and Christmas with P&O which would include accomocation onboard overnight.
My hotel in Bruges was booked seperately and would be non refundable.
What would be the legal situation if the Ferry over were to be cancelled?
Would I have any protection against failing to get to my paid hotel?
Would alternqative accomodation for the night need to be provided as this was part of the package i booked?
The worst that will happen to you is that, in the event of a major eff off storm you're going to have a bit of an uncomfortable night. Maybe if someone isn't a good sailor then they may not be too keen on the morning fry up.
It will only be in the event of a major incident, or some low life numb nuts trying to set fire to the boat, or perhaps a mechanical problem that the boat will not sail. If it doesn't that's what insurance is for.
I've crossed the N Sea enough times, mainly on routes to Denmark/ Sweden in situations where you had to literally, and I do use that word errr literally, you literally had to hang onto your bunk to avoid being dumped on the floor. Only once was the prospect of breakfast almost too much to face. Even then with the difficulty of keeping a slippery fried egg on the plate as you staggered back to your seat made one think a cup of coffee and a few dry biscuits might have been a more sensible idea.
Obviously the ferry still sailed. No one died, though at times from the sounds of imprecations to "Ruth and Hughie" I'm sure they thought they were about to breathe their last.
You're going to be fine OP. Have a really enjoyable trip. Best wishes.
It will only be in the event of a major incident, or some low life numb nuts trying to set fire to the boat, or perhaps a mechanical problem that the boat will not sail. If it doesn't that's what insurance is for.
I've crossed the N Sea enough times, mainly on routes to Denmark/ Sweden in situations where you had to literally, and I do use that word errr literally, you literally had to hang onto your bunk to avoid being dumped on the floor. Only once was the prospect of breakfast almost too much to face. Even then with the difficulty of keeping a slippery fried egg on the plate as you staggered back to your seat made one think a cup of coffee and a few dry biscuits might have been a more sensible idea.
Obviously the ferry still sailed. No one died, though at times from the sounds of imprecations to "Ruth and Hughie" I'm sure they thought they were about to breathe their last.
You're going to be fine OP. Have a really enjoyable trip. Best wishes.
TooMany2cvs said:
"Mini cruise"? It's a cross-channel ferry!
We decided on an alternative route to get to Le Mans the other month. Instead of Portsmouth > Caen/Le Havre we went Plymouth > Roscoff due to booking late. I was quite surprised that the crossing was nearly 10 hours and that the Roscoff boat had cabaret, entertainment etc and was really quite a decent boat. Turns out they scoot out of Plymouth harbour and basically park up about 5 miles offshore for 4 hours while everyone gets pissed - then they make way over to Roscoff.
So that's how you turn a ferry crossing into a cruise
The OP is probably booked on Hull-Zeebrugge so 18:30 dep 08:45 arrival next day.
No idea how much of that time is actually at sea, not done that route though if it's the same as Hull-Rotterdam then most of it.
It's why if doing a southern NSea route like Harwich Hoek as you get your dinner and breakfast while the boat is docked. The actual crossing is while you're asleep in the main.
No idea how much of that time is actually at sea, not done that route though if it's the same as Hull-Rotterdam then most of it.
It's why if doing a southern NSea route like Harwich Hoek as you get your dinner and breakfast while the boat is docked. The actual crossing is while you're asleep in the main.
FiF said:
The OP is probably booked on Hull-Zeebrugge so 18:30 dep 08:45 arrival next day.
No idea how much of that time is actually at sea, not done that route though if it's the same as Hull-Rotterdam then most of it.
It's why if doing a southern NSea route like Harwich Hoek as you get your dinner and breakfast while the boat is docked. The actual crossing is while you're asleep in the main.
Exactly this!No idea how much of that time is actually at sea, not done that route though if it's the same as Hull-Rotterdam then most of it.
It's why if doing a southern NSea route like Harwich Hoek as you get your dinner and breakfast while the boat is docked. The actual crossing is while you're asleep in the main.
Done it for the last 4 years and every crossing has been smooth bar one!
glad to know that the weather isn't a huge concern, thanks guys
mehball said:
That's what travel insurance is for.
^ This.It's a common situation if you make your own separate arrangements, and vital to have cover if it's, for example, a trip to Disneyworld Florida and you've booked the whole thing in separate pieces.
Need to make sure the insurance includes independently made travel arrangements (and avoid the confusion between independent travel of people covered by the policy). Some policies assume you're going on a package holiday where the tour operator will take care of you.
Of course you'll have trouble now if you don't already have insurance as they'll say this was forecast when you bought the insurance.
The ships aren't rank or a deathtrap surprised kapitienlangzaam is saying that.
The Zeebrugge ferry leaves from inside the dock and will go any weather.The Rotterdam ferry is moored in the river.Her problem is sometimes to get off the berth due to wind and tide.
Happened the other day three tugs needed to get her off the berth.Wind against the jetty and a ebtide didn't help.
I remember one crossing on the old Norwind ferry from Rotterdam to Hull.We run into a force ten. I had a talk with one of the officers he looked worried.So was I.
The Zeebrugge ferry leaves from inside the dock and will go any weather.The Rotterdam ferry is moored in the river.Her problem is sometimes to get off the berth due to wind and tide.
Happened the other day three tugs needed to get her off the berth.Wind against the jetty and a ebtide didn't help.
I remember one crossing on the old Norwind ferry from Rotterdam to Hull.We run into a force ten. I had a talk with one of the officers he looked worried.So was I.
We use the Hull-Zeebrugge/Rotterdam boats all the time; driving to Dover from Lancs hasn't been worth the bother for me for about 15 years now.
As far as I know they've never been canceled due to adverse weather, and I've seen some bad weather. The only effect I've seen was with the monster tide this time last year - we were last in the boat in the car before they had to disconnect the link spans for a few hours as it was too high.
The Zeebrugge boats are tired, yes, but I like them for it. They're almost 30 years old (builtninJapan in 86 I think) but they have the familiarity of a worn old slipper. If I get the opportunity and there's a last sailing I'd like to be on it.
The "turn" on the stage is always typical northern entertainment and great fun.
When are you going, OP? We are going over next Friday (19th as foot passenger), staying in Bruges on the Saturday and coming back in the Sunday night.
As far as I know they've never been canceled due to adverse weather, and I've seen some bad weather. The only effect I've seen was with the monster tide this time last year - we were last in the boat in the car before they had to disconnect the link spans for a few hours as it was too high.
The Zeebrugge boats are tired, yes, but I like them for it. They're almost 30 years old (builtninJapan in 86 I think) but they have the familiarity of a worn old slipper. If I get the opportunity and there's a last sailing I'd like to be on it.
The "turn" on the stage is always typical northern entertainment and great fun.
When are you going, OP? We are going over next Friday (19th as foot passenger), staying in Bruges on the Saturday and coming back in the Sunday night.
I have no problem with the ships, like I said this is now my 5th year for the trip to bruges.
Never been to amsterdam but I have been told by friends that the Amsterdam ferries aren't great, most used and abused by stag do's, you dont get on expecting it to be a full on cruise liner with pool, it is what it is.
We're going on the 20th with a 2 night stopover and should hit Hull on christmas eve, That'll be at least 3 PHers in Bruges that weekend as Rosscow will be there too.
Never been to amsterdam but I have been told by friends that the Amsterdam ferries aren't great, most used and abused by stag do's, you dont get on expecting it to be a full on cruise liner with pool, it is what it is.
We're going on the 20th with a 2 night stopover and should hit Hull on christmas eve, That'll be at least 3 PHers in Bruges that weekend as Rosscow will be there too.
andburg said:
I have no problem with the ships, like I said this is now my 5th year for the trip to bruges.
Never been to amsterdam but I have been told by friends that the Amsterdam ferries aren't great, most used and abused by stag do's, you dont get on expecting it to be a full on cruise liner with pool, it is what it is.
We're going on the 20th with a 2 night stopover and should hit Hull on christmas eve, That'll be at least 3 PHers in Bruges that weekend as Rosscow will be there too.
Ah, we are out on the 19th, overnight in Bruges on the 20th and back on the 21st.Never been to amsterdam but I have been told by friends that the Amsterdam ferries aren't great, most used and abused by stag do's, you dont get on expecting it to be a full on cruise liner with pool, it is what it is.
We're going on the 20th with a 2 night stopover and should hit Hull on christmas eve, That'll be at least 3 PHers in Bruges that weekend as Rosscow will be there too.
How was your trip. OP?
Ours was bloody excellent We just loafed around drinking and eating. Some friends came up from France for the day on Saturday, which was nice.
The new coach drop off point was a bit of a ball-ache - we got a taxi back there from the hotel. Incidentally we stayed at a place about 5 minutes walk from the main square, Hotel Bryghia which was really nice and I'll definitely use again.
Boat on the way out was fun - it was a bit like the train at the end of Trading Places with the party on it - most people were in fancy dress (some ridiculous elf outfits) and the disco was a pissed up riot. I couldn't join in as I had just won the "how much buffet can you eat" competition and was moaning that I was going to explode.
Way back was another kettle of fish - christ it was rough. Despite having taken sea sick tablets I couldn't face food or drink (neither could anyone else by the look of things) and just went to bed early and clung to my bunk.
Cracking trip though
Ours was bloody excellent We just loafed around drinking and eating. Some friends came up from France for the day on Saturday, which was nice.
The new coach drop off point was a bit of a ball-ache - we got a taxi back there from the hotel. Incidentally we stayed at a place about 5 minutes walk from the main square, Hotel Bryghia which was really nice and I'll definitely use again.
Boat on the way out was fun - it was a bit like the train at the end of Trading Places with the party on it - most people were in fancy dress (some ridiculous elf outfits) and the disco was a pissed up riot. I couldn't join in as I had just won the "how much buffet can you eat" competition and was moaning that I was going to explode.
Way back was another kettle of fish - christ it was rough. Despite having taken sea sick tablets I couldn't face food or drink (neither could anyone else by the look of things) and just went to bed early and clung to my bunk.
Cracking trip though
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