What cars could be 'Singered'?

What cars could be 'Singered'?

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roystinho

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3,767 posts

175 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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So I've become a little obsessed with Singer 911, I love exactly what they are and everything about them, how everything has been 'reimagined', old skool motoring but essentially a brand new car.

Now I'm nowhere near a position to get one, but it got me thinking, could the business model work for other old cars, specifically old cars that rust? I watched something how they strip the 964 down and e-coat it to stop the rust, then basically cover it in carbon fibre bodywork.

So could you do it to a classic mini for instance? Or would you? Even if the 'business' side of things didn't stack up as it would be a very expensive little car.

What other cars do you think would be a good car to 'Singer'?

aww999

2,068 posts

261 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Mk1 Toyota MR2. Great car with tough running gear, which can suffer terribly from tinworm. The guys at Woodsport already do a great job with bodywork refurbs and modern engine transplants (including the 300bhp V6 from the Exige).

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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aww999 said:
Mk1 Toyota MR2.
Lol.

Original Skyline.
Toyota 2000GT.
Miura

List is very, very long.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Can't get more "Singer" than a Singer.

Aphex

2,160 posts

200 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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A Datsun 240z would be nice but theres plenty of nicely modified ones around

Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

174 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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We're already doing it (and have been for some years) at Alfaholics.

roystinho

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3,767 posts

175 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Aphex said:
A Datsun 240z would be nice but theres plenty of nicely modified ones around
Great shout.

I think that they need to be an iconic type of car, but not a rare beast as to ruin a collectible, like the above list with the Miura, 2000GT and Skyline (Hakosuka I'm presuming you mean?)

roystinho

Original Poster:

3,767 posts

175 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Mound Dawg said:
We're already doing it (and have been for some years) at Alfaholics.
Yeah love your stuff, I've never looked properly into the processes you do/how far you go with your cars though - gonna have a look over the weekend now though smile

J4CKO

41,487 posts

200 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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vtecyo said:
aww999 said:
Mk1 Toyota MR2.
Lol.

Original Skyline.
Toyota 2000GT.
Miura

List is very, very long.
MR2 is a good shout if not quite there yet, you then list cars that realistically nobody is ever going to mess with due to being hugely valuable.

To do a a Singer the base car needs to be capable, have scope for improvement, worth decent but not vast sums.

944 might be worth it

FD3Si

857 posts

144 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Personally, I don't think there are a lot - for starters, you need something that has a long history - Singer take different aspects from different eras and meld them into a whole.
What they can't get from that bloodline, they create bespoke, and the best possible way they can.

The bits that they add they do with thought and precision to create a cohesive object - i.e. they don't just add a rollcage to stiffen the car - they add a rollcage to fit as tight as they can, and trim it to match the interior.

I can't think of many things that have the necessary generations of evolution and history behind them that would provide a big enough pool to pluck from.
Although the Skyline is a good shout. Possibly an Escort/Focus hybrid?

Maybe something E-type/XK based?

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

230 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Countach. Because 80's icon, fairly mad styling but said to be (surprisingly I've never driven one so am only going from what I've read over the years) a pig to drive and of not the best build quality.

A Singered one would get my vote.

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

230 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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FD3Si said:
E-type
Oooh yeah, that too!

sandman77

2,402 posts

138 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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There already is an e-type. Eagle e-type.

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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FD3Si said:
Personally, I don't think there are a lot - for starters, you need something that has a long history
This.. There aren't many cars out there that are so commonly identifiable over such a long period.

The Beetle perhaps, but it's hardly a sports car.

An original Mini?

The Eagle Speedster kinda did it with the E-Type.

Agoogy

7,274 posts

248 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Citreon DS
XJS?
Original XJ6
Rover SD1

Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Agoogy said:
Rover SD1
I've seen a twin turbo engine build of one of these recently almost completed, it had a TVR engine in before and was featured in Retro rides magazine. Sounds crazy fast now but looks standard vitesse.

LordHaveMurci

12,040 posts

169 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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MX-5 obviously - come on you lot, catch up!

FD3Si

857 posts

144 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Yeah, Eagle crossed my mind.

I honestly think a lot of people are missing the point of Singers - you can't take a model that only really existed for one generation and 'Singer'-ify it. Singers are 'Greatest Hits' with bespoke bits. Not just a single model resto done really well.

DonkeyApple

55,165 posts

169 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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roystinho said:
So I've become a little obsessed with Singer 911, I love exactly what they are and everything about them, how everything has been 'reimagined', old skool motoring but essentially a brand new car.

Now I'm nowhere near a position to get one, but it got me thinking, could the business model work for other old cars, specifically old cars that rust? I watched something how they strip the 964 down and e-coat it to stop the rust, then basically cover it in carbon fibre bodywork.

So could you do it to a classic mini for instance? Or would you? Even if the 'business' side of things didn't stack up as it would be a very expensive little car.

What other cars do you think would be a good car to 'Singer'?
An obvious one would be BMW CS with modern running gear. Plenty of shells and parts.

FD3Si

857 posts

144 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Actually, thinking about it, MWStewart's Fiesta is the closest I think I've seen smile