Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

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CharlesdeGaulle

26,260 posts

180 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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snobetter said:
Cheap at around 4.5, but clearly due to the engine management light. Could be worth a gamble if you have a friendly decent mechanic.

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
snobetter said:
Cheap at around 4.5, but clearly due to the engine management light. Could be worth a gamble if you have a friendly decent mechanic.
231 BHP according to the ad, not bad at all. I am suspicious about the light. On a car like this you'd get it checked out and fixed - and only punt it on if you found something expensive.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,260 posts

180 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Coker said:
radiodanno said:
This looks very proper and correct. Love the interior, but not mad about the Willow (that's just my feeling on things, mind)

JDM W124.

|http://thumbsnap.com/ICnPuSnu[/url]

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C577652
Very nice indeed, that interior is fabulous. I really, really want that.
Is the jap history likely to present any issues with either corrosion or insurance?
That is fantastic. If it were an estate, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

As for the import side of things, my SL is a HK car; it has no corrosion at all, and no issues for insurance.

Whether they are less well-protected or not I can't say, although I doubt that MB would have protected cars on the assembly line for any particular market any differently than others, but on the basis that they all go eventually, and the imports appear to have no rust, it's probably at least buying you some time before it shows.

W00DY

15,483 posts

226 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle

26,260 posts

180 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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0a said:
I am suspicious about the light. On a car like this you'd get it checked out and fixed - and only punt it on if you found something expensive.
I'm inclined to agree.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Folks - a barge mission for you! My old man is in the market for a diesel Merc estate, towards the upper end of this thread budget, and must be an estate. Has anyone seen anything decent around? Ideally not a massive engine as he doesn't want to pay too much road tax. I'm going to get browsing but would appreciate if anyone has spotted any gems smile

sly fox

2,226 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Chicane-UK said:
Folks - a barge mission for you! My old man is in the market for a diesel Merc estate, towards the upper end of this thread budget, and must be an estate. Has anyone seen anything decent around? Ideally not a massive engine as he doesn't want to pay too much road tax. I'm going to get browsing but would appreciate if anyone has spotted any gems smile
Surely at the top end of this budget you would be buying a car pre-2006 and ergo getting fixed £285/year VED?

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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sly fox said:
Surely at the top end of this budget you would be buying a car pre-2006 and ergo getting fixed £285/year VED?
Yeah - to be honest looks as though with a £5k max budget he's unlikely to find anything post 2006 anyway.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,260 posts

180 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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sly fox said:
Surely at the top end of this budget you would be buying an immaculate 124
Fixed that!

sday12

5,053 posts

211 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Chicane-UK said:
Folks - a barge mission for you! My old man is in the market for a diesel Merc estate, towards the upper end of this thread budget, and must be an estate. Has anyone seen anything decent around? Ideally not a massive engine as he doesn't want to pay too much road tax. I'm going to get browsing but would appreciate if anyone has spotted any gems smile
This caught my eye in Hornchurch

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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W00DY said:
Had this yet? Very tempting.

The better later engine, and the better later dash, but not the final, inferior facelift. And a very low price.

Sweet-spot.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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SpeckledJim said:
W00DY said:
Had this yet? Very tempting.

The better later engine, and the better later dash, but not the final, inferior facelift. And a very low price.

Sweet-spot.
Agreed. That's a particularly good combination apart from lacking a supercharger.

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Chicane-UK said:
Folks - a barge mission for you! My old man is in the market for a diesel Merc estate, towards the upper end of this thread budget, and must be an estate. Has anyone seen anything decent around? Ideally not a massive engine as he doesn't want to pay too much road tax. I'm going to get browsing but would appreciate if anyone has spotted any gems smile
The age old question - does he really require a diesel? A diesel means he is chasing a more popular specification so may pay more for a higher mile example than if he looked at petrols.

From the experience of some posters on here the Merc diesels at this price level do not always seem very worth it in MPG either, and it seems reasonable to assume a petrol may on balance be more reliable.

"That's what he wants" is a very fine answer - I have long since decided against guiding my parents when they have made up their mind (eg I told my Dad he would regret buying his SLK320 as they are not well built, would he listen, no. He regrets not going R129 now!).

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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0a said:
The age old question - does he really require a diesel? A diesel means he is chasing a more popular specification so may pay more for a higher mile example than if he looked at petrols.

From the experience of some posters on here the Merc diesels at this price level do not always seem very worth it in MPG either, and it seems reasonable to assume a petrol may on balance be more reliable.

"That's what he wants" is a very fine answer - I have long since decided against guiding my parents when they have made up their mind (eg I told my Dad he would regret buying his SLK320 as they are not well built, would he listen, no. He regrets not going R129 now!).
Yeah it's a good point well made. They use the car virtually every day and actually seem to do a fair amount of miles. They're going from a '97 C240 which has been a really solid car to be honest despite being just short of 200,000 miles but the fuel economy on it is HORRIFYINGLY bad which is what has lured them into trying a diesel out. I think they'll do the kind of miles that'd make it worthwhile. I may well look to steer him towards other engines and even marques to be honest. He just loves Mercs - having basically owned only a W124 estate and a C240 Estate in the last... 12-13 years... both of which have done an easy 100k in his hands, and have been pretty bomb proof, he's pretty loyal to Mercedes Benz.

sday12 said:
Nice. Have forwarded it on to him. Thanks!

Edited by Chicane-UK on Friday 23 January 19:51

Happy Jim

968 posts

239 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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snobetter said:
I had the 320 version until last year.

I had a light as well.....

Leaky turbo inlet seal, dripped onto the shaft that turns the silly flaps inside the inlet manifold, shaft gums up from the drips, stepper motor for the silly flaps blows, engine light comes on (don't remember it going into limp mode though).
As it's modern manufacture the smallest component to replace is......the entire bloody inlet manifold ! Just over 3 grand at a main stealer

Fortunatly I had the seal replaced 18 months previously for £130 and Merc cover the component PLUS consequential damage if it fails within 2 years - result! (Still a st design of seal though).

The common fix is to whip the plug off the stepper motor and shove a small resistor across a couple of the pins - no light, cheap bodge!

Tempting.......

Jim

Stegel

1,953 posts

174 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Happy Jim said:
snobetter said:
I had the 320 version until last year.

I had a light as well.....

Leaky turbo inlet seal, dripped onto the shaft that turns the silly flaps inside the inlet manifold, shaft gums up from the drips, stepper motor for the silly flaps blows, engine light comes on (don't remember it going into limp mode though).
As it's modern manufacture the smallest component to replace is......the entire bloody inlet manifold ! Just over 3 grand at a main stealer

Fortunatly I had the seal replaced 18 months previously for £130 and Merc cover the component PLUS consequential damage if it fails within 2 years - result! (Still a st design of seal though).

The common fix is to whip the plug off the stepper motor and shove a small resistor across a couple of the pins - no light, cheap bodge!

Tempting.......

Jim
Same thing happened on our E, just 3 months after I had the seal replaced...................on my CLS. The light didn't come on, but it did go into limp mode. MB contributed 35%, but still painful. Does seem daft that a small part necessitates the entire manifold to be scrapped. (BTW - the car linked to is petrol).

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

214 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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W00DY said:
Which S Type has the terminal engine problems?

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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BeirutTaxi said:
Which S Type has the terminal engine problems?
4.0 V8 mostly. The 4.2 V8 is pretty strong.

evoivboy

928 posts

146 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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JZZ30 said:


http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C571716#

Not sure if deserves a spot in this thread, but I quite like it, and its very cheap.
iv'e just got one of these



swapped it with this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-Swift-1-0-GLS-3dr...


think i did ok
few bits need doing but drives superb

PlayersNo6

1,102 posts

156 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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E24man said:
The 635CSi will have to go and the E39 B10 V8 Touring might follow it too.
Any further details on the 635?
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