Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

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W00DY

15,480 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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I shall be heading off to the Alps in the bus on Sunday so any fuel economy tips would be much appreciated. Cruise on or off? Best mile munching speed for a 300?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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r129sl said:
Well done CdeG. Best cars ever, 190s!
It's lovely isn't it. Strikes me as a great car to buy your kids as a first car, instead of some boring stbox like a Fiesta or Polo.

Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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"Hi selling my mercedes as have to many cars this is a very rare car ordered new in jet black not metallic and contrasting leather interior. Car is in fantastic condition with loads of service invoices I have spent oner 4k bringing car to this condition no rust whatsoever ever diamond cut alloys its irish registered but comes with brand new enlglish mot with no advisories underneath car is mint so no worries very easy to rereg here in uk I have priced this a roof,will not go down it has power I never got round to it as I have a stag also this car will double in value so price is firm call Patrick on 07584051254 for more information please no test pilots dreamers or tyre kickers I can kick them myself regards Patrick"





No mention of miles, it's the 320 and £6.5k though.
I think someone might need to sit him down and tell him what the word "contrasting" means.

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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derin100 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
I viewed, tested, drove and then bought a mini-barge today. In fact a Mercedes 190e. In fact, this one.



This was the ad:

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C623659

It was close to bottom of thread budget. The seller had been charmingly open about stuff in mails, and I had warm feelings before even seeing the car in the metal. Colours were good. Service history seemed to stack up. Much seemed to have been done, with little needing to be.

All in all, I was optimistic. However, even I recognise that I'm invariably optimistic, so that's not always a good indicator. I posted the car here, then I deleted the post - I was reluctant to share with 'the competition'; I realise that the planet's few old-Merc admirers inhabit this place, so it's not wise to advertise your fancies too widely.

So, I kept my dirty little secret. Especially from Madame CdeG, in whose name the thing was being bought. She hasn't yet seen it, so my pleasure may be short-lived (married men will recognise the need to make the most of fleeting pleasures). Anyway, today: nice house; credible back-story; charming visit; courteous interaction; ending with very genteel discussion of money. The car was mine.

Only around 100 miles done so far, but it feels like a steal. A delightful car to drive, everything works, the integrity of the car feels complete (God, how pseudish that make me sound), and I feel as though I've got a rather perfect cockroach of a car for very little money. The icing on the cake is that No 2 daughter loved it, and No 1 daughter is coming around to the idea that it's a really cool car.

Overall, my dad-points seem to be in credit which, as the fathers of daughters amongst you will recognise, is a fleeting and ethereal thing. Notwithstanding, another old-Merc adorns my drive-way - result.
Excellent! Congratulations!

(And a very entertaining post...laugh)

Just noticed...it has aircon?



Edited by derin100 on Friday 3rd July 09:45
Does anyone know the paint code for the lower (Sacco) panels on that car? My wife's 124 Estate is exactly the same colour combo and I'm just getting it ready to sell. I know the main (dark green = Malachite Metallic) colour is code 249.

Cheers!



SilverSixer

8,202 posts

151 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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hornetrider said:
r129sl said:
Well done CdeG. Best cars ever, 190s!
It's lovely isn't it. Strikes me as a great car to buy your kids as a first car, instead of some boring stbox like a Fiesta or Polo.
My sister has just got a Merc A class (Y reg) for one of hers (£1300). Not a choice I'd have made, 190 would be much better as you say.

My eldest will be driving in 6 years, I'd like to get a Volvo 340 for him.

dbdb

4,315 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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One thing I have wondered for a long time, is whether there is a 'best mileage' for smoker barges? Setting aside the hardly used super low mileage cars which are exceedingly rare, is the bargist better off with a low-miles car with less than 100,000 on the clock, a mid-miles car with maybe 130,000 on the clock - or something quite a bit higher? Is it purely 'buy on condition'?

These things vary by car of course, but all of the barge staples are high quality cars which can achieve several hundred thousand miles when maintained enough. My own area of knowledge is Jaguar XJ40 and to a lesser extent the X300. The condition of XJ40s does not seem to directly correspond with the miles at all - particularly for rust. Cars which have sat around a lot (like mine, a 98,000 mile example which did most of its miles in the first half of its life) seem to have rusted more than many cars which have covered maybe 130,000 miles or more.

Do threadists favour the low mileage cars over higher miles cars? - Or is it all down to the way the car has been treated - and 'miles are just a number on the dash'?

tobinen

9,214 posts

145 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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For me the miles are just numbers on the dash. Condition, history and how it runs would be my important criteria

Stegel

1,950 posts

174 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Usget said:
0a said:
"Hi selling my mercedes as have to many cars this is a very rare car ordered new in jet black not metallic and contrasting leather interior. Car is in fantastic condition with loads of service invoices I have spent oner 4k bringing car to this condition no rust whatsoever ever diamond cut alloys its irish registered but comes with brand new enlglish mot with no advisories underneath car is mint so no worries very easy to rereg here in uk I have priced this a roof,will not go down it has power I never got round to it as I have a stag also this car will double in value so price is firm call Patrick on 07584051254 for more information please no test pilots dreamers or tyre kickers I can kick them myself regards Patrick"





No mention of miles, it's the 320 and £6.5k though.
I think someone might need to sit him down and tell him what the word "contrasting" means.
And explain the cost of getting the roof working again could mean he needs to substantially reduce his asking price (unless it is really low miles, but if it is low miles why has he not said so!?)

Stegel

1,950 posts

174 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Congratulations on the purchase CdeG, it looks great - as a father of daughters, I recognise the combination of old MB purchase and dad-points is a real accomplishment!

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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The £14.5k W124 300E! http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C633319



No air conditioning so I will keep mine thanks.

dbdb

4,315 posts

173 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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The spec is a bit disappointing, but the car will feel new!

It is a real niche purchase - I wonder what it is actually worth? The W124 has a following so someone somewhere will pay good money for it, but I suspect quite a bit less than they're asking.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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hornetrider said:
It's lovely isn't it. Strikes me as a great car to buy your kids as a first car, instead of some boring stbox like a Fiesta or Polo.
Funny you should say that: I will be looking for a good 190e for my daughter shortly. Ideally an injected automatic, don't really care whether it's a 2.0 or a 1.8 but must be rock-solid and straight.

With impeccable taste for a 20 year old She actually wants a a W111 280SE 3.5 coupe, but I've said she'll have to work her way up to that...

Happy Jim

966 posts

239 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I viewed, tested, drove and then bought a mini-barge today. In fact a Mercedes 190e. In fact, this one.




Overall, my dad-points seem to be in credit which, as the fathers of daughters amongst you will recognise, is a fleeting and ethereal thing. Notwithstanding, another old-Merc adorns my drive-way - result.
Hmmmm, Great purchase, but I hadn't actually thought of moving my purchasing onto the Kids....GENIUS Move :-)

Jim

W00DY

15,480 posts

226 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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0a said:
The £14.5k W124 300E! http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C633319



No air conditioning so I will keep mine thanks.
I'm not so keen on the colour, but I'd take it over the modern equivalent 8k mile E class.

In other news my £20 chinese fuel relay is fitted and working like a charm so far.

Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Or the private numberplate with the initials of the previous owner.

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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dbdb said:
The spec is a bit disappointing, but the car will feel new!

It is a real niche purchase - I wonder what it is actually worth? The W124 has a following so someone somewhere will pay good money for it, but I suspect quite a bit less than they're asking.
In terms of value I don't think there is 'a value' for an 8k W124. If that is what someone really wants and they have the money, then I guess it is 'worth' it. I don't think that even I would purchase it at that price - I would buy a cheaper, higher mile one, with a better specification. As soon as you start actually driving the thing it becomes another low value W124 4 door in any case!

cat220

2,762 posts

215 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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JF87 said:
cat220 said:
That's a pity, wonder what it went for.
Pity indeed. Vendor was asking £4,495 - ad had been up for a month, though, so suppose he might have taken less. As you'll know better than most E55 estates are hardly thick on the ground so I won't be holding my breath for another.

How let down would I feel by an E430? (Entry-level requirement for next car is 8 cylinders, as I'm recycling the LPG kit from my deceased E31 840... I should probably also be considering E34 540 Tourings, but the twisted nostalgia would hurt.)
I don't think you'd feel let down by the 430, won't have the same push as the 55 however by all accounts it's a great engine. Driven a CLK with the 430 and it drove very well. I'm sure there was a 430 estate for sale on retro rides recently.

Needs a bit of work but if you could get it for closer to £1500.

Edited by cat220 on Friday 3rd July 15:00

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Strawman said:
Or the private numberplate with the initials of the previous owner.
Hmm... Almost certainly "John Thomas". Bit of an unfortunate connotation.

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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W00DY said:
0a said:
The £14.5k W124 300E! http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C633319



No air conditioning so I will keep mine thanks.
I'm not so keen on the colour, but I'd take it over the modern equivalent 8k mile E class.

In other news my £20 chinese fuel relay is fitted and working like a charm so far.
It's not a car: it's a classic investment.

This all has to go "pop" sooner or later, surely? Anyway, as a 124 owner I should be pleased: it all rubs off.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 3rd July 2015
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Lowtimer said:
Hmm... Almost certainly "John Thomas". Bit of an unfortunate connotation.
Hmm....hopefully Jeffrey or Jacob or something else for the sake of the poor bloke.
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