The perfect 2/3 car combination?
Discussion
V8RX7 said:
RobM77 said:
V8RX7 said:
RobM77 said:
if we remove off roading and the high towing capacity, both of which most people will never use
do PHers really tow much that's bigger and heavier than a track car plus spares?
But they do.do PHers really tow much that's bigger and heavier than a track car plus spares?
I don't own a RR although if I had enough spare cash I would certainly consider one - currently I use Isuzu TF because I do use 4WD (only on fields) and I do need to tow 3+ tons.
A mate on here uses a modified LandCruiser but if he could afford it he'd use a RR too.
Quite a few builders, farmers, horse riders etc I know run them - or let their wives run them - but use them when their van lets them down or can't cope and they will use a brand new RR to tow the mini digger / trailer / horse box across a field.
If you live in a City I'm sure your experience is different.
My query (and it was a query, not a criticism), was why so many petrolheads who never drive off road love RRs - a genuine question. Obviously if you have to tow a couple of heavy horses in a horse trailer across a field, or a trailer full of sheep, then it's a different matter! I too live in the country, used to ride horses and much of my family are in the farming industry, but I'm well aware that this isn't the norm UK wide or on PH; thus my question.
Kids all grown up and I live on my own so the combination works well for me RobM77 said:
I'm fairly certain that a very large percentage of people who list 'RR' on their car list never drive off road, beyond the odd grassy car park at the polo occasionally. My query (and it was a query, not a criticism), was why so many petrolheads who never drive off road love RRs - a genuine question. Obviously if you have to tow a couple of heavy horses in a horse trailer across a field, or a trailer full of sheep, then it's a different matter! I too live in the country, used to ride horses and much of my family are in the farming industry, but I'm well aware that this isn't the norm UK wide or on PH; thus my question.
I drive my wifes RR Evoque off road (on hills in the NW Highlands) and it's astonishingly good. Really, really good. No... REALLY good. It's also got the most comfortable relaxing ride I've ever known when it's on tarmac. My query (and it was a query, not a criticism), was why so many petrolheads who never drive off road love RRs - a genuine question. Obviously if you have to tow a couple of heavy horses in a horse trailer across a field, or a trailer full of sheep, then it's a different matter! I too live in the country, used to ride horses and much of my family are in the farming industry, but I'm well aware that this isn't the norm UK wide or on PH; thus my question.If it weighed a lot less, was a foot shorter and had more torque, I'd buy one for myself.... oh.. hold on
RobM77 said:
I'm fairly certain that a very large percentage of people who list 'RR' on their car list never drive off road, beyond the odd grassy car park at the polo occasionally. My query (and it was a query, not a criticism), was why so many petrolheads who never drive off road love RRs - a genuine question.
For the same reason people buy branded clothing or pay £5k for a watch that keeps worse time than a £5 casio My query (and it was a query, not a criticism), was why so many petrolheads who never drive off road love RRs - a genuine question. GetCarter said:
RobM77 said:
I'm fairly certain that a very large percentage of people who list 'RR' on their car list never drive off road, beyond the odd grassy car park at the polo occasionally. My query (and it was a query, not a criticism), was why so many petrolheads who never drive off road love RRs - a genuine question. Obviously if you have to tow a couple of heavy horses in a horse trailer across a field, or a trailer full of sheep, then it's a different matter! I too live in the country, used to ride horses and much of my family are in the farming industry, but I'm well aware that this isn't the norm UK wide or on PH; thus my question.
I drive my wifes RR Evoque off road (on hills in the NW Highlands) and it's astonishingly good. Really, really good. No... REALLY good. It's also got the most comfortable relaxing ride I've ever known when it's on tarmac. My query (and it was a query, not a criticism), was why so many petrolheads who never drive off road love RRs - a genuine question. Obviously if you have to tow a couple of heavy horses in a horse trailer across a field, or a trailer full of sheep, then it's a different matter! I too live in the country, used to ride horses and much of my family are in the farming industry, but I'm well aware that this isn't the norm UK wide or on PH; thus my question.If it weighed a lot less, was a foot shorter and had more torque, I'd buy one for myself.... oh.. hold on
Current
BMW 520D - company car, 30kpa' very comfy but looking to replace with something smaller as my mileage about to reduce and it's a pain in the arse to park.
Mini Cooper D - wife's car, second Mini she has had, but not likely to replace with a third... Have you seen the latest model!
Fiat500 - Daughters car, she seems very pleased with it.
MX5 Mk1 - my toy which I love to bits.
BMW 520D - company car, 30kpa' very comfy but looking to replace with something smaller as my mileage about to reduce and it's a pain in the arse to park.
Mini Cooper D - wife's car, second Mini she has had, but not likely to replace with a third... Have you seen the latest model!
Fiat500 - Daughters car, she seems very pleased with it.
MX5 Mk1 - my toy which I love to bits.
Unsurprised that so many RRs are cropping up, very surprised at the dislike/ disagreement about so many RRs cropping up.
In a 3 car garage, the RR is generally going to fill the comfy/ wafty/ daily spot. In any self-respecting PHers 3 car garage, there will be a supercar/ sportscar/ Sunday toy/ track car, so no need for it to 'entertain'.
I'd agree that a relatively small percentage of PHers will need towing capability (outside of towing their caravan/ boat/ trackcar, or transporting goods for a business). I suspect a higher, although still relatively small percentage will require regular off-road capability.
This misses the point imho. They simply offer a more pleasant wafter/ comfy steer than a nice saloon or estate. More spacious, more compliant ride and more desirable (read: high) driving position, offering greater visibility.
The only way you could reasonably take exception to the RRs inclusion is if you prefer another large 4x4/ dislike LR products (fine, if your primary concern is reliability or a non-rusty tailgate).
Even in a lottery-win-fantasy garage, the RR still has a place- what 4x4 of this size does a much better job, without being offensive in some way?
I guess the other exception would be where you are based- narrow roads/ lanes or regular use of tight car parks could become a PITA.... I'd personally just man up and take afew scratches/ dings!
In a 3 car garage, the RR is generally going to fill the comfy/ wafty/ daily spot. In any self-respecting PHers 3 car garage, there will be a supercar/ sportscar/ Sunday toy/ track car, so no need for it to 'entertain'.
I'd agree that a relatively small percentage of PHers will need towing capability (outside of towing their caravan/ boat/ trackcar, or transporting goods for a business). I suspect a higher, although still relatively small percentage will require regular off-road capability.
This misses the point imho. They simply offer a more pleasant wafter/ comfy steer than a nice saloon or estate. More spacious, more compliant ride and more desirable (read: high) driving position, offering greater visibility.
The only way you could reasonably take exception to the RRs inclusion is if you prefer another large 4x4/ dislike LR products (fine, if your primary concern is reliability or a non-rusty tailgate).
Even in a lottery-win-fantasy garage, the RR still has a place- what 4x4 of this size does a much better job, without being offensive in some way?
I guess the other exception would be where you are based- narrow roads/ lanes or regular use of tight car parks could become a PITA.... I'd personally just man up and take afew scratches/ dings!
RobM77 said:
I'm just curious as to why it's so much more appealing for pure road use than all the other four door wonder machines there are out there like the Quattroporte, Rapide, AMG S Class, AMG E Class, M5 etc (knock the AMGs and Ms of if you don't like fast cars). What does the RR do that those cars can't do, if we remove off roading and the high towing capacity, both of which most people will never use
try fitting a fridge, sheet of plywood or christmas tree into those cars.TA14 said:
RobM77 said:
I'm just curious as to why it's so much more appealing for pure road use than all the other four door wonder machines there are out there like the Quattroporte, Rapide, AMG S Class, AMG E Class, M5 etc (knock the AMGs and Ms of if you don't like fast cars). What does the RR do that those cars can't do, if we remove off roading and the high towing capacity, both of which most people will never use
try fitting a fridge, sheet of plywood or christmas tree into those cars. Even people I know with vans don't go and physically pick up a fridge!Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff