I want equality with women - jail her for life

[wolves_wanderer]

Pity she wasn't a Muslim, then you could have got have got two loads of conspiracy crap in the one story.

[anonymous-user]

Moonhawk said:

cookie118 said:

Edit: So OP you think women are advantaged in the UK?

Can't speak for the OP - but in terms of sentences handed out by courts (relative to those handed out to men - on average).......evidence would appear point to the fact that they are.

Possibly but the problem with average stats is that they look at it as a whole rather than on a case by case basis as a judge would. In this case I do feel the sentence is massively lenient.

Sorry I just find the sudden emergence of a gender equality thread on pistonheads rather laughable considering the general way women and women's rights are talked about.

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Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 14th December 15:52

[NicD]

cookie118 said:

In this case I do feel the sentence is massively lenient.

So, we are in agreement. This thread is about this case.

[Rovinghawk]

ikarl said:

I think I'm with the op on this one, can't see a bloke getting community service in a similar situation

I often disagree with the OP but am solidly with him on this one- how the hell did she get such a light sentence when her husband in similar circumstances would fairly certainly be doing prison time?

[Grumfutock]

Abagnale said:

It's your assertion that women get off light in the justice system, so over to you to prove it, women hater.

Wow, just wow! You really have some serious issues my friend.

[BJG1]

cookie118 said:

And her being a woman had what to do with the sentence?

Women are given shorter sentences than men for the same crimes. It's misandry

[NicD]

Grumfutock said:

Wow, just wow! You really have some serious issues my friend.

Maybe the Mods could parachute in some specialist help.

[NicD]

BJG1 said:

Women are given shorter sentences than men for the same crimes. It's misandry

had to look that up, it receives so little prominence. From Wiki:

Misandry from the Greek misos ("hatred") and "man"), is the hatred or dislike of men or boys. Misandry can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of men, violence against men, and sexual objectification of men. The form "misandrist" was first used in 1871.

Misandry can take the form of the marginalisation of men, in which they perform the most dangerous occupations and are regarded as being disposable, men having lower life expectancy and higher suicide rates than women. It has been described as damaging to both men and women, preventing mutual respect between the sexes.

Although the word is relatively modern, there is evidence of implicit, even explicit, misandry in literature from the Ancient Greeks to Shakespeare and modern literature, such as The Vagina Monologues and even comic book heroes.

[McWigglebum4th]

Abagnale said:

It's your assertion that women get off light in the justice system, so over to you to prove it, women hater.

I hate women

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/nov/...

more bloody men said:

More than 1.2m persons of known gender were convicted and sentenced at all courts in 2011. Of these 24% were female and 76% were male.

The release reports that the data on out of court disposals and court proceedings show some differences in the the types of disposals issued by gender and in sentence lengths, however differences may relate to variations on the types of offences committed and plea entered.

The most common indictable offence group for which both males and females were sentenced at all courts (2007-2011) was theft and handling stolen goods (includes shoplifting). Theft and handling stolen goods accounted for 52% of females and 33% of males sentenced for indictable offences in 2011.

Men were more likely to be sentenced to immediate custody - 10% of males compared with 3% of females.

date here

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/women-and...

[PorkInsider]

Abagnale said:

It's your assertion that women get off light in the justice system, so over to you to prove it, women hater.

Wow. What time did you start on the glue drinking today?

[TKF]

wolves_wanderer said:

Pity she wasn't a Muslim, then you could have got have got two loads of conspiracy crap in the one story.

A Muslim female immigrant on benefits and taking our jobs. The holy pentagon of hate for NicD.

It's so hard being a white male in this country. Why don't we have a pressure group working for our rights?

[NicD]

Come on, I only want fair.

where is the hate in that?

as for women, well, cant live without them, hard to live wiv em.

[Rovinghawk]

TKF said:

It's so hard being a white male in this country. Why don't we have a pressure group working for our rights?

Didn't Clint Eastwood cover that in 'In The Line of Fire?'

"There ain't a lot of us but we have a powerful lobby in Parliament."

[Grumfutock]

NicD said:

Come on, I only want fair.

where is the hate in that?

as for women, well, cant live without them, hard to live wiv em.

And if you hit them with a shovel and bury them under your patio it is illegal, apparently! Who knew!

[NicD]

Grumfutock said:

And if you hit them with a shovel and bury them under your patio it is illegal, apparently! Who knew!

should we look there? What is your address?

[Grumfutock]

NicD said:

Grumfutock said:

And if you hit them with a shovel and bury them under your patio it is illegal, apparently! Who knew!

should we look there? What is your address?

See, I told you it turn out it was illegal!

[SamHH]

Grumfutock said:

Having read the news report it would appear to be murder, man slaughter at the very least.

Do you not think that the people who selected the charge might be more knowledgeable and in a better position than someone who has read an article in a tabloid newspaper?

Edited by SamHH on Wednesday 17th December 11:33

[SamHH]

NicD said:

Woman have formed very effective pressure groups to advance their cause. In addition, men are ingrained from an early age with a sense of chivalry towards woman. This is often manifested in court situations where doddery old judges favour women. The result is, woman are often given the benefit of the doubt, and more when it comes to motive and certainly sentencing.

Even if any of those things were true, they don't advance your argument that the defendant in the story you quoted was given an unfairly lenient sentence because of her gender. What evidence do you have for that assertion?

[Grumfutock]

SamHH said:

Grumfutock said:

Having read the news report it would appear to be murder, man slaughter at the very least.

Do you not think that the people who selected the charge might have more knowledgable and in a better position than someone who has read an article in a tabloid newspaper?

Possibly but she also thought, and I would assume on her solicitors advice, that she was going down.

To my mind this is no different than being banned from driving, getting drunk and going out in your car and killing somebody in a crash. You know your banned, you know your drunk so it should be man slaughter! However sadly in this sort of case you never see a manslaughter charge. Why? Because we have a weak legal system.

[Moonhawk]

cookie118 said:

Possibly but the problem with average stats is that they look at it as a whole rather than on a case by case basis as a judge would. In this case I do feel the sentence is massively lenient.

I agree you cannot state categorically the reason for the decision on an individual case based on average stats. The average stats however do show that there is a difference in the way the genders are sentenced (in much the same way as average stats are used to show there is a gender pay gap).

cookie118 said:

Sorry I just find the sudden emergence of a gender equality thread on pistonheads rather laughable considering the general way women and women's rights are talked about.

Talked about...on here or in general? I can't say I have noticed too many threads denying or denigrating women's rights on PH. Surely a thread calling for equality is a good thing?

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 17th December 11:51