RSRing a 944

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GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Vems or Augtronic will free it up. Augtronic uses the original DME chassis too, so not only is it plug compatible, it looks OEM as well.

benjj

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163 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Thanks, was going to ask you about that.

Where is the best place to buy and is it silly dosh?

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Buy direct from Tom: Augment Automotive. Vems comes from a hungarian called Peep, but I dont know much about it yet.

benjj

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163 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Thanks, will drop Tom a line.

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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I've got Tom's ECU, fast road cam and fuel pressure regulator in my race 924S. 177bhp. Now plenty will say that's not that impressive but Tom will tell you they never saw more than 148bhp from any of the 944s they tested on the rolling road they used to use so it represents virtually 20% improvement and its a very driveable engine.

Edited by andy97 on Monday 20th April 21:51

gothatway

5,783 posts

170 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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What do you do about lights for rallying - aren't you limited to four forward facing beams ?

benjj

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163 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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The bottom pair are wired directly with an in line fuse. When rallying in daytime I'll just tape over them and remove the fuse.

Night rallying and I tape over the middle pair so the bottom set (crazy bright Hellas) can be used.

Never had a problem with scruts.

benjj

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Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Michael (Talkwrench) sent me a photo from the workshop of the first few bits that have been blasted before some experimentation.

The engine holder thingummybob has arrived too so I really need to clear some time to get over and start taking the main block apart.



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Edited by benjj on Thursday 23 April 20:40

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Time to get the die grinder out rotate

benjj

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6,787 posts

163 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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Indeed. Call me Mr. Porter and call the porter to bring me a pint of porter while I do some porting.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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GC8 said:
Vems comes from a hungarian called Peep, but I dont know much about it yet.
He's in Estonia and he had a hissy fit when I asked a few questions on another forum rolleyes.

benjj

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Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Quick update on this as I'm over at the workshop again this morning for some engine tinkering.

I broke down the engine last week and organised all of the parts that are going to be fiddled with.

Delighted to see that the piston faces and bores are in great shape. I did have to clear out a bunch of munched up wheat from the chambers that I assume was from some particularly mad pot-holing mice.



Then I organised all of the bits I got in the pallet. The list goes on and on but there is some great stuff there for modifying.



This morning I'm hoping to break down the bottom end and remove all the ancillaries. Also have a look at the cam. I'll be replacing that with something gnarly but if it's in good shape I'll clean it up and stick it in the stores for the other road engine along with these pistons, rods etc.


benjj

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163 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I feel like a real mechanic today having done mechanicky stuff under the expert tutelage of Michael.

Stripped down the bottom end by removing both balance shafts, sump and auxiliaries.



We're going to delete the balance shafts but that's not as simple as first thought as they're fed with oil through the housings. This will mean permanently sealing those oil ways but Michael seemed pretty laissez faire about it so, you know, whatevs.



Michael was also surprised at the sheer damned size of the crank. I have to admit to even my amateur eyes it is quite a piece of kit. It'll be interesting to see just what can be shaved from it.



So far pretty much everything about this engine is spanking. I bought it as a '80,000 mile engine' and I can quite believe it. Everything important is looking tickety boo.

Lots and lots and lots of media blasting about to happen, plus I've got to go back and remove the ladder and crank (and presumably all the other engine bits like pistons and rods and stuff). Aiming to do that on Thursday morning so the bare bottom end can be blasted. Then the phoenix from the ashes will rise, mightier than ever. Probably.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Delete the balance shafts and lighten the crank and you'll be rebuilding it again before too long.

benjj

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Tuesday 28th April 2015
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blade7 said:
Delete the balance shafts and lighten the crank and you'll be rebuilding it again before too long.
Why's that then?

blade7

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216 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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Fatigue caused by vibration.

benjj

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Tuesday 28th April 2015
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blade7 said:
Fatigue caused by vibration.
For a road engine expected to do X,000 with just a filter and fluid change I'd agree. But this isn't going to be one of those wink

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th April 2015
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I did a bit of reading around on this issue as I have disconnected the balance shafts on my 924 S race car. I came down in favour of the view that at the consistently higher revs of a race car it wasn't too much of a risk, and that's been proven so far (touch wood) over about 8-9 40 min races plus practices.

At lower revs maybe it's an issue as the lower revs tend to be less smooth?

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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Your oil pickup tube had better be well braced then....

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Wednesday 29th April 2015
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The oil pickup is marginal in a fully balanced engine. Leaving it as-is in an engine which has had the balance shafts disconnected or removed is a folly of the highest order.