CCTV crash sleuthing - help identify car?

CCTV crash sleuthing - help identify car?

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mackay45

832 posts

171 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Only an hour after going up this thread is already very interesting!

Good old PH

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Time stamping is all wrong in the video aswell. Jumps from 39 to 26 at the start?

AndyDRZ

1,202 posts

236 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Wahoo!

eybic

9,212 posts

174 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Ha ha ha, awesome. I wonder if the trader has a dog (looks like there's a dog in the passenger seat in the vid)

eltax91

9,872 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Great work finding it everyone.

OP - let us know what the old bill say when you give them the reg for the correct car, along with the fact it checks out on askMID and/ or car check sites. smile

Raify

Original Poster:

6,552 posts

248 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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I've given the info to the old man, will report back with what old bill / insurance co say...

Thanks everyone! Top sleuthing.

icepop

1,177 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Wow, bad luck for your dad, but looks like the power of PH has closed it in somewhat. That damage on the AT Megane does look suspicious, but would say that there doesn't look to be any damage on the bumper, it just looks to be on the body area above it, would've thought the bumper took most of the impact, mind you that can be pushed out.

Just my view on it.....it looks very much like the Megane had to move to the inside to perhaps avoid the dark car coming towards him, and definitely whacked your dads car. He's then put it in reverse to turn, to try to catch the black car up, for a bit of 'banter' about driving manners ???? He's going too fast for a reverse park, even for a city driver, and it looks like both his indicators are on, was this a feature on that age Megane, wrt hard braking ?

Either way, have the police seen the vid, cos isn't it classed as leaving the scene of an accident ?

andburg

7,285 posts

169 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Bet the owner claimed it was hit whilst parked and then had it written off.

unfortunately id assume this is a pointless search as the plate cannot be clearly read, insuficcient evidence!

Good luck, hope something good comes of it!

DannyScene

6,624 posts

155 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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icepop said:
Wow, bad luck for your dad, but looks like the power of PH has closed it in somewhat. That damage on the AT Megane does look suspicious, but would say that there doesn't look to be any damage on the bumper, it just looks to be on the body area above it, would've thought the bumper took most of the impact, mind you that can be pushed out.

Just my view on it.....it looks very much like the Megane had to move to the inside to perhaps avoid the dark car coming towards him, and definitely whacked your dads car. He's then put it in reverse to turn, to try to catch the black car up, for a bit of 'banter' about driving manners ???? He's going too fast for a reverse park, even for a city driver, and it looks like both his indicators are on, was this a feature on that age Megane, wrt hard braking ?

Either way, have the police seen the vid, cos isn't it classed as leaving the scene of an accident ?
That is what I thought

Megane driver is angry at the other car possibly for not stopping to let it through or not moving over far enough, tried to slam on and spin the car round to 'give chase' or something, clips your dads car, feels like a right bell end and and drives off

Alpaca

308 posts

172 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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73mark said:


Just seen this on autotrader looks odd damage looks right
Good work, a few years ago I tracked on down the uninsured Saab 9-3 that collided with my car and fled on Gumtree complete with suspicious damage. I passed the advert to the Police.

Nothing came of it. The car was registered to a vacant property, funny enough not the same address where the car in advert was photographed at and the registered keeper's name was probably fake.

Charlie1986

2,017 posts

135 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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DannyScene said:
That is what I thought

Megane driver is angry at the other car possibly for not stopping to let it through or not moving over far enough, tried to slam on and spin the car round to 'give chase' or something, clips your dads car, feels like a right bell end and and drives off
R
That's my view on this video

IntriguedUser

989 posts

121 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Obviously a Conv Meg.....

No questions at all, I was expecting grainy pixelated images/video but its clear as daylight.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Raify said:
I spotted that whilst editing.. My dad has that plastic at home...

That W59 NGY looks like a winner...
If you look though it blows away as the Megane drives away

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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icepop said:
Just my view on it.....it looks very much like the Megane had to move to the inside to perhaps avoid the dark car coming towards him, and definitely whacked your dads car. He's then put it in reverse to turn, to try to catch the black car up, for a bit of 'banter' about driving manners ???? He's going too fast for a reverse park, even for a city driver, and it looks like both his indicators are on, was this a feature on that age Megane, wrt hard braking ?
yes
Looks like the Megane misjudged both the on-coming car and trying to turn around.


rich888

2,610 posts

199 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Raify said:
Hello PH sleuths,

My old man caught a very strange incident on his cctv. Someone drove past his car, stopped and then slammed it in reverse hitting his car pretty hard.

He's now an excess down and a claim added to his insurance. Witnesses outside got most of the plate, but they either got it slightly wrong or the car has a dodgy plate.

Have a look at the video here:

http://youtu.be/8OgL3RWgYUc

The plate the neighbours got was N?59 NGY. They were certain about the last part (confirmed by 3+ people) but a quick trawl of ask MID shows it must be a different beginning.

The car looks like a Volvo convertible, or maybe a Megane?

The closest I've got as a plate on ask MID is "Mercedes 220 Avantgarde 170 CDI" and "Volvo C30 SE R-Design D"

Any ideas?
Seems like PH viewers have correctly identified the car and number-plate so well done there, but one suggestion for anyone posting videos onto YouTube in the future, it might also be worthwhile uploading the video onto the likes of www.mega.co.nz so that the original video can be downloaded and viewed, reason being that videos uploaded onto YouTube tend to be degraded versions due to the compression involved in the upload process.

Might also be worthwhile buying a dashcam and hardwiring it in on motion detect, there are some very inexpensive models costing less than £50 that provide excellent 1080p video evidence which would have worked a treat in this particular instance.

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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TheInternet said:
1996, N reg is plausible on that basis.
Won't be an n-plate, renault 19 cab was still being sold - my mate had one of the first megane cabriolets and it was on an R plate - that colour scheme will mean a later model - between 2001 and 2003

FazerBoy

954 posts

150 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Outrun said:
The Megane driver obviously blames the initial contact on the parked car because it isn't parked straight. So he decides to get revenge by reversing into it and straightening it out. Great work by everyone. Hope the OP gets his man.
I agree with this.

The passing Megane clips the parked car on its way past, presumably because it is parked at a slight angle to the kerb.

The driver then decides to 'teach the owner of the parked car a lesson' and reverses into it deliberately. The driver has a pretty serious anger management problem...

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Definitely a Megane.
Almost certainly on drugs or drunk or both to drive like that!

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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FazerBoy said:
Outrun said:
The Megane driver obviously blames the initial contact on the parked car because it isn't parked straight. So he decides to get revenge by reversing into it and straightening it out. Great work by everyone. Hope the OP gets his man.
I agree with this.

The passing Megane clips the parked car on its way past, presumably because it is parked at a slight angle to the kerb.

The driver then decides to 'teach the owner of the parked car a lesson' and reverses into it deliberately. The driver has a pretty serious anger management problem...
Check the second sequence smile
The parked car is initially straight to the kerb. As the Megane goes past the rear pops out. The megane reverses into it to put it straight again

MrChips

3,264 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Alternative amateur sleuth view... the bit of dark trim that falls to the floor around the 15second mark appears to fall closer to the offside of the megane. So could it be that he actually clipped mirrors with the dark car that was going the other way, after clipping it he immediately slams into reverse to do a quick 3 point turn but doesn't check his nearside and hits the parked car scratchchin

And before you say.. But the parked car moves at the 14second mark just as the megane passes, I suspect this is just artefacts in the video... Look at the flowers/bush at the lower right of the frame.. They also jump all over the place!

OP... Can we see some pics of the damage to the black car?


Edited by MrChips on Thursday 18th December 23:15