Using the car less
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nsm3 said:
I got rid of a GT3 twelve months ago, due in part to concerns of over use/depreciation/refresh costs etc and in the last year of ownership, it only did 1700 miles.
It turns out that if I had kept it in the garage for a year, it would now be worth £20k more than I sold it for, however, even if I had stuck another 10k miles on it, the value would still have shot up just as much.
This comparison may also extend to say a 987 CR, but with lower £'s involved?
Any other type of Cayman (987/981) is going to suffer from relatively catastrophic depreciation between doing no mileage and 10k pa anyway, so my opinion is that you may as well use the thing?
this, it will cost you more to buy and use the and then sell the mini than putting another 10k on you Cayman so just use the Cayman !It turns out that if I had kept it in the garage for a year, it would now be worth £20k more than I sold it for, however, even if I had stuck another 10k miles on it, the value would still have shot up just as much.
This comparison may also extend to say a 987 CR, but with lower £'s involved?
Any other type of Cayman (987/981) is going to suffer from relatively catastrophic depreciation between doing no mileage and 10k pa anyway, so my opinion is that you may as well use the thing?
Two things:
Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
Two things:
Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
BertBert said:
And OP, if you are worried about the miles, use the Porsche once a week.
Bert
If you're worried about the miles, park it nose first in the garage and then every weekend, if you don't drive it, open the door and run it for half an hour with everything electrical (radio, A/C etc) turned off. You keep the battery charged and the fluids moving but won't accumulate any mileage.Bert
koorby said:
Two things:
Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
exactly.Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
The keeping the factory plastic covers on the 3 piece suite syndrome...
koorby said:
Two things:
Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
Fair point, but only to a degree.......Why buy a Porsche if you're not going to enjoy it as much as possible and be paranoid about mileage? That defeats the point of buying and owning one. If you can't afford the depreciation you can't afford a Porsche, simple as that.
Why conserve the miles on YOUR car just for the benefit of the eventual new owner? Don't give a toss about the new owner, enjoy your car now, today, to the max and live life a little
We can all think of certain journeys and type of roads and weather conditions where quite frankly any Porsche no matter how 'driver focused' would be completely wasted. Whats the point of say going to the supermarket/sitting in city traffic/stop start on an over congested carpark/M25 etc etc in anything tasty......might as well take a 'shed' or 'snotter' for this of motoring and leave your P and J all snuggly in the garage, knowing your mileage is kept down, your residual up and look forward with greater anticipation to that next A or B road blast when the right opportunity presents itself...........
av185 said:
Fair point, but only to a degree.......
We can all think of certain journeys and type of roads and weather conditions where quite frankly any Porsche no matter how 'driver focused' would be completely wasted. Whats the point of say going to the supermarket/sitting in city traffic/stop start on an over congested carpark/M25 etc etc in anything tasty......might as well take a 'shed' or 'snotter' for this of motoring and leave your P and J all snuggly in the garage, knowing your mileage is kept down, your residual up and look forward with greater anticipation to that next A or B road blast when the right opportunity presents itself...........
I can see your point but surely these cars put a smile on your face, therefore make the mundane trips to the shops and communting to work more bearable. We can all think of certain journeys and type of roads and weather conditions where quite frankly any Porsche no matter how 'driver focused' would be completely wasted. Whats the point of say going to the supermarket/sitting in city traffic/stop start on an over congested carpark/M25 etc etc in anything tasty......might as well take a 'shed' or 'snotter' for this of motoring and leave your P and J all snuggly in the garage, knowing your mileage is kept down, your residual up and look forward with greater anticipation to that next A or B road blast when the right opportunity presents itself...........
mrdemon said:
this, it will cost you more to buy and use the and then sell the mini than putting another 10k on you Cayman so just use the Cayman !
Mrdemon has nailed it here. You'll surely lose at least as much running a Mini (depreciation + tax + insurance minus slightly less money on fuel) for a year as you'd lose in extra depreciation, putting the miles on your Porsche.I'm fortunate, in that I need to use my Cooper S 2-3 days a week, for school runs etc.
So my Cayman is left for no more that a couple of days at a time. If I didn't need the back seats occasionally, I'd use the Cayman for everything. It's even excellent for kids football on a saturday morning - you can fit a lot of footballs in that front boot !
(Equally, you could argue that I should chop both in for a 911....)
av185 said:
Fair point, but only to a degree.......
We can all think of certain journeys and type of roads and weather conditions where quite frankly any Porsche no matter how 'driver focused' would be completely wasted. Whats the point of say going to the supermarket/sitting in city traffic/stop start on an over congested carpark/M25 etc etc in anything tasty......might as well take a 'shed' or 'snotter' for this of motoring and leave your P and J all snuggly in the garage, knowing your mileage is kept down, your residual up and look forward with greater anticipation to that next A or B road blast when the right opportunity presents itself...........
Nope you miss the point of owning and enjoying a Porsche entirely.We can all think of certain journeys and type of roads and weather conditions where quite frankly any Porsche no matter how 'driver focused' would be completely wasted. Whats the point of say going to the supermarket/sitting in city traffic/stop start on an over congested carpark/M25 etc etc in anything tasty......might as well take a 'shed' or 'snotter' for this of motoring and leave your P and J all snuggly in the garage, knowing your mileage is kept down, your residual up and look forward with greater anticipation to that next A or B road blast when the right opportunity presents itself...........
Fact: the UK is a wet, damp, grey place a lot of the year, yet it buys the highest number of convertibles per capita than any other western nation.
Yesterday it was a damp, grey day, the forecast showed heavy clouds and the roads were slick. Still, I put 120 miles of blissful motoring on the clock, revelling in the GTS's handling, noise, poise and the sheer joy of driving it. Even when it began to drizzle the roof stayed firmly down, the cabin completely remaining dry.
The South Downs are a veritable treasure chest of A and B roads and postcard picture villages. Eventually I stumbled across a cosy pub and pulled up to the admiring stares of the locals and shared a pint and some banter with them.
A perfect three hours in the Boxster, and something I'll do several times a week regardless of the weather. You see, I bought a Porsche because of *what* the car is, the pleasure it gives me and the appreciation of the engineering that went into. I bought it to enjoy every single minute of sitting in the driver's seat, and the bliss of driving it.
Putting it a garage or SORNing it is, to pur it bluntly, bloody stupid.
Enjoy the car or get rid.
Nah.....you are missing the point entirely.....who said anything about sorning.....
Yes....use and enjoy the car......but only in the optimum conditions.
The other salient point to consider is that if something tasty is used as a daily, this somewhat dilutes the whole experience by familiarity.......this is when an interesting other vehicle comes into its own. And next time you take your prize machine out for a blast, the experience is so much greater as a consequence...win win....
Yes....use and enjoy the car......but only in the optimum conditions.
The other salient point to consider is that if something tasty is used as a daily, this somewhat dilutes the whole experience by familiarity.......this is when an interesting other vehicle comes into its own. And next time you take your prize machine out for a blast, the experience is so much greater as a consequence...win win....
rObArtes said:
so.. everyone replying use their porker every day?
When I commuted by car and had a 6RS, I used it for the commute but just not every day. I did on average 3 days per week. Kept the mileage managed and I enjoyed the car. It's perhaps just a personal thing, but I can't stand having fun cars stuck in the garage that don't get used. In fact I sold the 6RS when my job changed and I didn't have a drive every day Bert
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