Buying a car - take a jack?

Buying a car - take a jack?

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FussyFez

Original Poster:

972 posts

176 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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The AA / RAC inspection thread got me thinking.

I've been stung before after buying a car without having a good poke around underneath.

Has anybody ever gone the whole hog and jacked a car up for a good look underneath? Would you consider it?

How would you react if I turned up to buy your car and wanted to Jack it up?


I personally wouldn't want some random jacking my car, but I'd happily lift and secure it for the buyer to crawl underneath, but what if the seller isn't comfortable with jacking themselves, or the buyer jacking?

Would you walk from a car if the seller refused?



rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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If its old it might be rusty and could have oil leaks so you should take a look, but you don't need a jack to that.
The sort of cretins who turn up with a jack are the same people who end up not buying nothing as they keep finding things wrong (on crappy old cars, what a surprise).
I would be happy to jack a car up for someone but wouldn't let someone else do it, have you ever seen the damage a jack can do when put in the wrong place?

DuraAce

4,240 posts

160 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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FussyFez said:
How would you react if I turned up to buy your car and wanted to Jack it up?
I'd tell you to sod off. Too much risk of you damaging something and then walking away.

Rightly or wrongly you'd come across as a buyer who was too much trouble. I'd look elsewhere for an easier sale.

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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FussyFez said:
I personally wouldn't want some random jacking my car, but I'd happily lift and secure it for the buyer to crawl underneath, but what if the seller isn't comfortable with jacking themselves, or the buyer jacking?
In those situations you can arrange for the car to be inspected on a ramp at a garage.

jimi

521 posts

263 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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I had a couple of guys once come to see an old BMW armed with socket sets and spanners so they could "inspect the car fully".

Muppets.

Mattlan

394 posts

205 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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just mk1 mx5's , always take a jack, and after obtaining owners permission, lift enough to be able to inspect rear sills properly. Always done with care though

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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I'd happily jack a car up myself or drive it onto ramps but I wouldn't let a viewer do it themselves.

furtive

4,498 posts

279 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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The father and daughter team (both are on PH) that bought my MX5 spent an hour going over the car with a fine-tooth comb. They bought their own home-made ramps, jack and tools, jacked it up and removed the under-tray to check the chassis rails, and I was happy for them to do so.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Unless you're looking at an old car where rust is likely to be an issue I don't think it's required.

Something like this will be less hassle and more acceptable to a seller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Led-Lighted-Extendable-I...

996TT02

3,308 posts

140 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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I always look underneath. Never actually took a jack, but if I wanted to look and needed to use a jack, and the seller refused, well that's the end of that, then.

Most horrors would be underneath.

sparkythecat

7,902 posts

255 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Why not get one of those 'Selfie sticks' or something similar and poke your mobile phone or camera underneath for some close up video of areas of concern?

Less chance of upsetting the vendor, saves you getting the jack out and keeps your hands and clothes clean.

PositronicRay

27,010 posts

183 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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If I think I'll want to inspect underneath I'd mention it on the phone 1st.

I've jacked up a car for a buyer before, I'd let them jack a car but I'd supervise.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

204 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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This is the sort of buyer who'll ring you up 2 days after buying it, then 3 months, then a year wanting to talk about some aspect of it and whether you'd ever noticed it.

If they sound like a bit of a dhead I've swerve it personally

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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FussyFez said:
Has anybody ever gone the whole hog and jacked a car up for a good look underneath? Would you consider it?
Yes, I've done it (when I bought my MGB). The owner didn't have a problem with it. I wouldn't mind as long as the potential buyer demonstrated they knew where the jacking points were.

silentbrown

8,827 posts

116 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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sparkythecat said:
Why not get one of those 'Selfie sticks' or something similar and poke your mobile phone or camera underneath for some close up video of areas of concern?
Don't forget the GoPro and drone to inspect the roof on vans and tall 4x4s!

BorkFactor

7,265 posts

158 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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DuraAce said:
I'd tell you to sod off. Too much risk of you damaging something and then walking away.

Rightly or wrongly you'd come across as a buyer who was too much trouble. I'd look elsewhere for an easier sale.
Exactly this. Lie on the ground with a torch like everyone else. Taking a jack is too far.

rallycross

12,790 posts

237 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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You do have to beware the so called expert and his jack.
Last time this happened to me the buyer seemed a genuine bloke but knew next to nothing about cars so he brought his 'expert' friend along to check the car out (you can guess where this is going). Shame his expert pal became a muppet of the highest order on being given this task of inspecting his purchase.

After spending about an hour pissing about underneath/inside/under the bonnet and loudly commenting every minor thing (all of which the buyer had been told about on the phone prior to coming) he declared it not worth buying as not original bla bla etc

What was this fine vehicle that needed such a thorough taking apart? A 25 year old BMW 3 series with 150,000 miles that was £1,100 and had a new MOT and FSH.

The next guy that came had a quick drive, spent 5 minutes looking around and paid the asking price said it was the best he'd seen having looked at loads and was much better than his last 3 series.



Edited by rallycross on Friday 19th December 11:09

wombat172a

1,455 posts

183 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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If it's a classic, then absolutely, although I'd rather tell the seller before I came to view the car, that I'd be doing that.

The most I've done when viewing a car about 250miles away was to ask the seller to take it to his local garage to run it through an MOT as it was running out. I was happy to pay for this, as if it was a complete failure then it was still cheaper for me to do this than the travel costs to view the car. The seller wasn't completely sold on the idea and fair enough, but he did arrange for the car to go to his local garage and for his mechanic to run me through the car on and off the ramps and what he'd found. There were still plenty of problems with the car, but I was happy to know what I was buying.

Neil_M

694 posts

184 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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I'd say its a bit of a pedantic thing to do.

However if I felt you were a genuine buyer, I'd jack the car up for you.

The easiest thing is to just get on the ground for a good look. You can see most things, If you struggle, park on a kerb.

The problem is, as its been mentioned, most people that come across as being that way inclined are time wasters.

Just my 2p smile.

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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I'd be a bit surprised if anyone wanted to do this to a relatively new car but for a classic I'd half expect it.