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Don1

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15,942 posts

208 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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WOW! bow

Talk to us!

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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there is not much to tell wink

engine wise it seems it is comming to an end. a lot of parties are involved and once
project is done ill get a detailed report together. car is still missing new paint, interior
some clean up of engine bay and chassis. hopefully it will be finished middle of next year.

special thanks goes out to the boys of Lloyd Specialist Developments that have also converted
my chimaera to Canems in the past and Dave of RND Engineering for the supplied parts
and technical advice.



RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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Thats a surprise. I thought you did not want to go down the 4.3/4.5 route to keep the free revving character of the 3.6.
Looking forward to your report.

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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can´t remember when i have seen you last time. i guess it was at the jim clark revival in hockenheim earlier this year ?

had sold my previous T350 as i remeber in late 2013. four weeks later i missed the car the same way i hated it in some
respects so i was looking for a replacement. up came a 4.3 some weeks later. spent nights crawling pistonheads of what
the car would be like with the 4.3 engine and bought it. after having it two or three weeks i knew it´s not a car for
me compared to the old 3.6 engine wise. of course you have torque all over the place starting from 2000 rpm with a flat
curve ending around 6000 rpm. you can go wot any time you want and it just pulls but what was missing is this little bit
of excitement that the 3.6 had. this little bit of excitement i bought the car loved and hated it for. driving in the
odenwald on a sunny morning with empty roads or going through inner city stop and go traffic that drives you mad. sure
the 4.3 feels right to 99% of all the people but for me it didn´t so things needed to be improved my way.

as i knew lloyds specialist developments from my chimaera canems ecu conversion those guys had been the first to give a
call with what i wanted to have. the conversion they did in the past and the work around was spot on. quite impressive
gains in HP and torque compared to the old dizzy setup chimaera. just to clarify if there is no aftermarket cam and other
bits and pieces in the car there is no need for an aftermarket ECU. on my side it cured all this shunting rough running
that annoyed me in inner city driving.

the path down the road of the T350 was for more power and more excitement. most of the people would have let it in
as is condition with 410 horses on the fly and have their piece of mind with it but i couldn´t resist to do things
differently. a modified torque curve was needed and sticking with the old MBE ecu and spending senseless money in
remapping was not an option.

second call had been to Dave of RND engineering. realy nice person to talk to and explained to him what is going to
happen to the car and that the torque curve needs to be changed to get rid of the dieselesque feel of the car.

need to go now to get some breakfast wink

RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Yeah, been a while. Indeed we met on last years Jim Clark Revival. We didnt talk much, but I really liked your car. Back then you still had the green T350 with the gold coloured wheels, as far as I remember, right? But you had the chimaeara with you that day. Saw the videos Chris posted on youtube BTW. Nice holidays you had there...

I really like the character of the original free revving 3.6. Ok, just above idle there is not much grunt, but since it's a NA engine, i don't expect much torque from down below aynway. So if boring out the cylinders would take away that character I would certainly be displeased. And from the technical standpoint I would exactly expect that to happen.
So maybe I'm also one of those 1%. Having said that, I never actually drove a 4.3, so have no direct comparison. But since I do not need more power as is, I have no worries in the first place. ;-)

So I understand, that you had Dom do a rebuild and upgrade to 4.3. Then you got a new ECU fitted and had a remap without changing other parts of the engine? Interesting.

Maybe we'll meet next year at Hockenheim again. I will most likely be there again. Looking forward to seeing your new T350, when it's ready.

glow worm

5,840 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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RobertoBlanco said:
So if boring out the cylinders would take away that character I would certainly be displeased. And from the technical standpoint I would exactly expect that to happen.
A 4.3 lengthens the stroke only a 4.5 is rebored and a lengthened stroke ... well that's my understanding.

RobertoBlanco

265 posts

129 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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glow worm said:
A 4.3 lengthens the stroke only a 4.5 is rebored and a lengthened stroke ... well that's my understanding.
Ok, my fault, but still, the travel of the cylinders is heightened => more centrifugal forces at reversal point => less revvs the system can take.

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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RobertoBlanco said:
So I understand, that you had Dom do a rebuild and upgrade to 4.3. Then you got a new ECU fitted and had a remap without changing other parts of the engine? Interesting.
10K at tvr power already got spent by the previous owner for the 4.3 and would not have done that on my side. if i would be in the boat for a rebuilt would go the 3.7 route with x mains and forged internals different cam etc. to bring safe revs in the 8000rpm direction. of course the 4.3 conversion is a good product and quite well known but keep in mind it will fully change the character of the car. you can drive it sort of more laid back with all it´s torque compared to a factory 3.6 that needs to be reved but on the other hand it fails to deliver that little bit of angry excitement the original 3.6 had that i loved.

goal had been to give the car kind of his 3.6 character back and of course gain some horses on the way.

a rough estimate the car been fully done is around middle of next year. still have to do some more work on the datsun and also the chimaera needs some minor work after the southern france trip. some nice driving down there.

http://youtu.be/vAc8Cs4zb58?t=4m15s

glow worm

5,840 posts

227 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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RobertoBlanco said:
Ok, my fault, but still, the travel of the cylinders is heightened => more centrifugal forces at reversal point => less revvs the system can take.
Sorry , I'm thinking when going from 4 litre to 4.3, not sure what happens to a 3.6 to 4.3 .

billynobrakes

2,675 posts

265 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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I have a 4.5 and as Gaksen says the engines have so much more torque so a more laid back drive a bit like a V8 but that is exactly what I wanted, I can plod around in any gear with ease but when I push the loud pedal she just flies, personally for me that is exactly what I wanted, I talked to Dom at length before I made my decision he said its not a revy engine but it will fit exactly what I wanted and with 414BHP and 368lb ft of torque it is good enough for me, I did not like the 3.6 all noise and to get it going you had to trash the nuts off it but again that my opinion

Plus the warranty 5 years unlimited if serviced at other TVR garages or 100,000 if serviced at Doms not matter how many years it takes, I don,t know of any other engine manufacturer who offers that

So its a case of you makes your choice and pays your money