Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 3
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More wind energy analysis - is the wind really always blowing strongly enough somewhere so that it would allow interconnects to mitigate poor local generation days?
See what you think.
http://euanmearns.com/the-wind-in-spain-blows/
See what you think.
http://euanmearns.com/the-wind-in-spain-blows/
rovermorris999 said:
Don't scoff. It's already happening with cars in China being thrown into the air by invisible forces.To rule out the Urban Heat Island Effect we need to know if Hansen was driving one of them.
The daftest utterence for COP21 so far :-
Action 'the only way' to tackle both climate change and terrorism
Posted at 09:17
Strong action on carbon emissions is essential for multiple reasons, says Manuel Pulgar Vidal, chair of last year's COP20 conference in Lima.
"It is the only way to face the climate change threat, but also the terrorism threat
Manuel Pulgar Vidal Chair of the previous UN climate summit (COP20) in Lima, 2014"
How the f
k does terrorism get in on the act ?
Action 'the only way' to tackle both climate change and terrorism
Posted at 09:17
Strong action on carbon emissions is essential for multiple reasons, says Manuel Pulgar Vidal, chair of last year's COP20 conference in Lima.
"It is the only way to face the climate change threat, but also the terrorism threat
Manuel Pulgar Vidal Chair of the previous UN climate summit (COP20) in Lima, 2014"
How the f
k does terrorism get in on the act ?robinessex said:
How the fk does terrorism get in on the act ?
03 Mar 2015k does terrorism get in on the act ?"The conflict that has torn Syria apart can be traced, in part, to a record drought worsened by global warming, a new study claims."
23 Nov 2015
"Prince Charles: Syria's War Linked To Climate Change."
This unprecedented level of climaboolix may have cropped up already earlier in the thread and been summarily ridiculed (with reasons) but there's no harm in another airing
Nuclearsquash said:
Anyone else got Climate Fatigue yet?
A decent proportion of the global population given the result of that UN global poll where climate change came last (as often happens) in people's priorities.The hype is getting hot
we need Scotty to beam us up.They are in Paris and politicians wanting to be seen as "taking a lead" will need to keep the messages as simple as possible is not simpler.
Any link to the recent terrorist attacks will tug the Crowd's emotions to place where questioning anything else the politician says would be unacceptable.
Whether it will mean anything to the crowd 2 weeks from now is another matter.
Whether, in the meantime, the idiots will royally screw the world's population big time is the main question.
The "powerful" people in France, according to history, have a propensity for self destruction of their existing institutions. Perhaps it's a Paris effect. It may rub off on the politicians in attendance - and there seem to be an awful lot of them and an awful lot of far more important distractions around the world to keep them preoccupied. COP21 may just be able to squeeze through a ludicrous result of some sort "on the nod" with the significant delegates lacking the attention required.
Or, possibly, it becomes a debate about something other than "climate politics" and nothing much happens. For now.
Any link to the recent terrorist attacks will tug the Crowd's emotions to place where questioning anything else the politician says would be unacceptable.
Whether it will mean anything to the crowd 2 weeks from now is another matter.
Whether, in the meantime, the idiots will royally screw the world's population big time is the main question.
The "powerful" people in France, according to history, have a propensity for self destruction of their existing institutions. Perhaps it's a Paris effect. It may rub off on the politicians in attendance - and there seem to be an awful lot of them and an awful lot of far more important distractions around the world to keep them preoccupied. COP21 may just be able to squeeze through a ludicrous result of some sort "on the nod" with the significant delegates lacking the attention required.
Or, possibly, it becomes a debate about something other than "climate politics" and nothing much happens. For now.
Here we go:-
COP21 live: The latest updates from Paris.
Christiana Figueres, the head of the UN's climate change negotiations, addressed delegates at the start of the summit.
"Never before has a responsibility so great been in the hands of so few," she said.
"The world is looking to you. The world is counting on you."
And Brian got his bit in as well.
Climate change is the greatest threat facing humanity and an agreement from world leaders would lead to "a saner future", the Prince of Wales has said.
Prince Charles told delegates at COP21 to "act now" to save man from "impending catastrophe".
COP21 live: The latest updates from Paris.
Christiana Figueres, the head of the UN's climate change negotiations, addressed delegates at the start of the summit.
"Never before has a responsibility so great been in the hands of so few," she said.
"The world is looking to you. The world is counting on you."
And Brian got his bit in as well.
Climate change is the greatest threat facing humanity and an agreement from world leaders would lead to "a saner future", the Prince of Wales has said.
Prince Charles told delegates at COP21 to "act now" to save man from "impending catastrophe".
johnfm said:
Prepare yourselves for days and days of BBC news climate bks.
Depressing how far removed from science all this is.
ks.Depressing how far removed from science all this is.
robinessex said:
COP21 live: The latest updates from Paris.
Christiana Figueres, the head of the UN's climate change negotiations, addressed delegates at the start of the summit.
"Never before has a responsibility so great been in the hands of so few," she said.
"The world is looking to you. The world is counting on you."
And Brian got his bit in as well.
Climate change is the greatest threat facing humanity and an agreement from world leaders would lead to "a saner future", the Prince of Wales has said.
Prince Charles told delegates at COP21 to "act now" to save man from "impending catastrophe".
This intense period of dawn to dusk climate codswallop is what we've been looking forward to all year!Christiana Figueres, the head of the UN's climate change negotiations, addressed delegates at the start of the summit.
"Never before has a responsibility so great been in the hands of so few," she said.
"The world is looking to you. The world is counting on you."
And Brian got his bit in as well.
Climate change is the greatest threat facing humanity and an agreement from world leaders would lead to "a saner future", the Prince of Wales has said.
Prince Charles told delegates at COP21 to "act now" to save man from "impending catastrophe".
The BEEB again
COP21: Why do two degrees matter?
25 November 2015 Last updated at 11:50 GMT
Global average temperatures in 2015 are likely to be the warmest on record, according to the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO).
A combination of a strong El Nino and human-induced global warming made the five-year period from 2011 to 2015 the warmest on record, researchers say.
The new findings are likely to feature prominently at the UN Climate Change Convention in Paris, when global political leaders and negotiators will aim to secure a new global deal that would limit emissions of carbon dioxide.
Climate negotiators agreed in Cancun in 2010 to commit their governments to "hold the increase in global average temperatures below 2C above pre-industrial levels".
BBC environment correspondent Matt McGrath assesses the significance of that figure, and why it is seen as the gateway to dangerous warming - all in less than the time it takes to make a coffee.
It's quite unbelievable a supposedly intelligent person can spout such rubbish. He was correct though, that Politicians are thick and stupid, and understand very little!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3492...
COP21: Why do two degrees matter?
25 November 2015 Last updated at 11:50 GMT
Global average temperatures in 2015 are likely to be the warmest on record, according to the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO).
A combination of a strong El Nino and human-induced global warming made the five-year period from 2011 to 2015 the warmest on record, researchers say.
The new findings are likely to feature prominently at the UN Climate Change Convention in Paris, when global political leaders and negotiators will aim to secure a new global deal that would limit emissions of carbon dioxide.
Climate negotiators agreed in Cancun in 2010 to commit their governments to "hold the increase in global average temperatures below 2C above pre-industrial levels".
BBC environment correspondent Matt McGrath assesses the significance of that figure, and why it is seen as the gateway to dangerous warming - all in less than the time it takes to make a coffee.
It's quite unbelievable a supposedly intelligent person can spout such rubbish. He was correct though, that Politicians are thick and stupid, and understand very little!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3492...
robinessex said:
Yes, he mentions 'the science and the evidence shows it is getting warmer'.Sadly, he fails to mention any evidence linking it to man or CO2.
I think it is a no brainer to campaign on, say, air quality in Beijing or whatever. Makes to tal sense - but why they insist on hanging it the CO2 b
ks is a surprise.If the political wing of the IPCC weren't so daft, they'd get more buy in by not being so clearly misguided. They have backed a crocked horse and continue to ride it instead of shooting it and hopping on a better one.
back to basics - so is the world at the moment getting warmer/cooler? say compared to 100 yrs ago, 500 years ago 1000 years ago 2000 years ago 10,000 years ago 100,000 years ago 1 million years ago and 100 million years ago?
cycles in the earth development fek all to do with dinosaurs, cave me, us. I think its Teutonic plate movement, the sun, natural cycle of events.
To think we can Stop or increase any actual change is nuts. I would wager that if the governments introduce new taxes/laws etc they will in a few years time fek around with the data to make it show what they want it to show - that they had somehow made a difference.
cycles in the earth development fek all to do with dinosaurs, cave me, us. I think its Teutonic plate movement, the sun, natural cycle of events.
To think we can Stop or increase any actual change is nuts. I would wager that if the governments introduce new taxes/laws etc they will in a few years time fek around with the data to make it show what they want it to show - that they had somehow made a difference.
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