£70 parking fine for 15 mins.
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My wife parked in Sainsburys car park to shop there and had an issue with one of our kids which meant she went about 15 mins over their 3 hour limit. It's a huge store so it's easy to park that long especially with a 2 & 3 year old ("need a wee"; "I'm hungry"; "need a poo"; arrive at car..... "need a wee" from the other one)....
It has ANPR on the entrance and a sign up next to where your plate flashes up but tbh it's up so high up & to the left that I've never noticed it until my wife pointed it out to me once the other week. There are apparently some signs somewhere near some of the spaces but again, I've never noticed them as they are sparse at best.
The private company who manage the car park charge £70 if you go over your stay; there is no initial charge and no ticket required to park with any of the information on it.
My wife is annoyed with herself for missing the deadline; she says she feels she has to pay it as she doesn't want to get into any trouble or any CCJ's; is it a case of taking it on the chin?
£70 is bloody excessive isn't it!
It has ANPR on the entrance and a sign up next to where your plate flashes up but tbh it's up so high up & to the left that I've never noticed it until my wife pointed it out to me once the other week. There are apparently some signs somewhere near some of the spaces but again, I've never noticed them as they are sparse at best.
The private company who manage the car park charge £70 if you go over your stay; there is no initial charge and no ticket required to park with any of the information on it.
My wife is annoyed with herself for missing the deadline; she says she feels she has to pay it as she doesn't want to get into any trouble or any CCJ's; is it a case of taking it on the chin?
£70 is bloody excessive isn't it!
Kentish said:
My wife parked in Sainsburys car park to shop there and had an issue with one of our kids which meant she went about 15 mins over their 3 hour limit. It's a huge store so it's easy to park that long especially with a 2 & 3 year old ("need a wee"; "I'm hungry"; "need a poo"; arrive at car..... "need a wee" from the other one)....
It has ANPR on the entrance and a sign up next to where your plate flashes up but tbh it's up so high up & to the left that I've never noticed it until my wife pointed it out to me once the other week. There are apparently some signs somewhere near some of the spaces but again, I've never noticed them as they are sparse at best.
The private company who manage the car park charge £70 if you go over your stay; there is no initial charge and no ticket required to park with any of the information on it.
My wife is annoyed with herself for missing the deadline; she says she feels she has to pay it as she doesn't want to get into any trouble or any CCJ's; is it a case of taking it on the chin?
£70 is bloody excessive isn't it!
Write to Sainsburys explaining the situation and they may well agree to get it cancelled for you - the big chains rarely like the negative publicity that comes from "genuine errors", where it's one of their customers who got stung.It has ANPR on the entrance and a sign up next to where your plate flashes up but tbh it's up so high up & to the left that I've never noticed it until my wife pointed it out to me once the other week. There are apparently some signs somewhere near some of the spaces but again, I've never noticed them as they are sparse at best.
The private company who manage the car park charge £70 if you go over your stay; there is no initial charge and no ticket required to park with any of the information on it.
My wife is annoyed with herself for missing the deadline; she says she feels she has to pay it as she doesn't want to get into any trouble or any CCJ's; is it a case of taking it on the chin?
£70 is bloody excessive isn't it!
It'll be the same £70 as this thread
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
She was lucky she didnt leave it another half hour and towed
The parking contractors have to make a living somehow
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
She was lucky she didnt leave it another half hour and towed
The parking contractors have to make a living somehow
saaby93 said:
It'll be the same £70 as this thread
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
She was lucky she didnt leave it another half hour and towed
The parking contractors have to make a living somehow
That's a council parking bay - councils are completely impervious to any criticism or negative publicity, and will never, ever back down. http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
She was lucky she didnt leave it another half hour and towed
The parking contractors have to make a living somehow
Sainsburys on the other hand are a private company and won't want negative publicity surrounding one of their actual paying customers being stung. This sort of innocent mistake happens farly frequently and the company (in this case Sainsburys) will usually help rectify any genuine disputes.
zarjaz1991 said:
saaby93 said:
It'll be the same £70 as this thread
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
She was lucky she didnt leave it another half hour and towed
The parking contractors have to make a living somehow
That's a council parking bay - councils are completely impervious to any criticism or negative publicity, and will never, ever back down. http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
She was lucky she didnt leave it another half hour and towed
The parking contractors have to make a living somehow
Yes definitely not a council parking bay and it's run by a private parking company.
I have read on here before about ignoring it since she did not enter into any contract with them by taking a parking ticket on entrance to the car park.
She doesn't want to leave it if the fine gets even more expensive (increases over time if not paid in 14 days) - just makes for an expensive shopping trip to the sales!
I have read on here before about ignoring it since she did not enter into any contract with them by taking a parking ticket on entrance to the car park.
She doesn't want to leave it if the fine gets even more expensive (increases over time if not paid in 14 days) - just makes for an expensive shopping trip to the sales!
Ignoting it doesn't work. Used to have some success, at one time, but the rules have changed since then.
Write to Sainsburys outlining the genuine circumstances - I'd be amazed if they dont get it cancelled for you. They are quite accustomed to this sort of thing happening and are very good at the customer service aspect of it - unlike councils.
Write to Sainsburys outlining the genuine circumstances - I'd be amazed if they dont get it cancelled for you. They are quite accustomed to this sort of thing happening and are very good at the customer service aspect of it - unlike councils.
They will try and get you to contract with them.Ignore all written requests from them and get on with your life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
Also see the parking fine thread...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA
Also see the parking fine thread...
Edited by retrorider on Monday 29th December 16:18
Edited by retrorider on Monday 29th December 16:44
It is not a fine. It is a speculative invoice
Get onto pepipoo.com, register, and explain the situation ( under the private parking tickets section) and do exactly as they say copy of ticket with details redacted will be required
and you will get a decision in your favour based on Genuine pre estimate of loss. Original cost of 2hrs free parking NIL therefore 15 mins over will be 2hrs divided by 15mins = 8 or 1/8 of nothing However some on here will tell you pepipoo are a waste of time.
all i will say is this
It will save you shelling out 70.00...your choice
Pay the 70.00 for a quiet life NO
ignore it No you could end up on the wrong end of a CCJ
Wait until you get a letter from the parking firm before contacting them ( by then you will have a 100% winning letter) and then write in the third person, never say you were the driver UNLESS it is a company car or hire car, then advise the parkering firm at once, otherwise the RK will pay it and bill you.
Or you can send me the 70.00 i will admit to being the driver win at the POPLA hearing and trouser your 70.00 Kerching
In the end it is your decision and no one elses
Let us know how you get on
Get onto pepipoo.com, register, and explain the situation ( under the private parking tickets section) and do exactly as they say copy of ticket with details redacted will be required
and you will get a decision in your favour based on Genuine pre estimate of loss. Original cost of 2hrs free parking NIL therefore 15 mins over will be 2hrs divided by 15mins = 8 or 1/8 of nothing However some on here will tell you pepipoo are a waste of time.
all i will say is this
It will save you shelling out 70.00...your choice
Pay the 70.00 for a quiet life NO
ignore it No you could end up on the wrong end of a CCJ
Wait until you get a letter from the parking firm before contacting them ( by then you will have a 100% winning letter) and then write in the third person, never say you were the driver UNLESS it is a company car or hire car, then advise the parkering firm at once, otherwise the RK will pay it and bill you.
Or you can send me the 70.00 i will admit to being the driver win at the POPLA hearing and trouser your 70.00 Kerching
In the end it is your decision and no one elses
Let us know how you get on
Personally I wouldn't waste my time doing anything about it. If push does come to shove, say you were there twice, but it looks like the cameras didn't record that. It does happen, and they can't prove it.
I had one - not from Sainbury's - that I ignored when it was £70. I had paid a parking fee of £2 for the whole day, so there was no loss on thier part. The "fine" rose to £100, then all the way to £300+ with the threat of court action. I kept all paperwork where they had also changed the reason for the penalty from the first to the third letters.
This was all post oct 2012 when the rules changed btw. Just boils my piss the amount of time that can be wasted with these a
holes.
I had one - not from Sainbury's - that I ignored when it was £70. I had paid a parking fee of £2 for the whole day, so there was no loss on thier part. The "fine" rose to £100, then all the way to £300+ with the threat of court action. I kept all paperwork where they had also changed the reason for the penalty from the first to the third letters.
This was all post oct 2012 when the rules changed btw. Just boils my piss the amount of time that can be wasted with these a
holes.Edited by fatboy b on Monday 29th December 16:19
retrorider said:
They will try and get you to contract with them.Ignore all written requests from them and get on with your life.
Poor advice. Since the 'law' (or act which requires consent, which you gave by registering your vehicle with DVLA, as you sound like a freeman on the land nutter) changed the rk is now liable for parking charges and could be taken to court to enforce. Better to contact Sainsburys and go down the loyal customer route then appeal to POPLA if unsuccessful.Motorrad said:
retrorider said:
They will try and get you to contract with them.Ignore all written requests from them and get on with your life.
Poor advice. Since the 'law' (or act which requires consent, which you gave by registering your vehicle with DVLA, as you sound like a freeman on the land nutter) changed the rk is now liable for parking charges and could be taken to court to enforce. Better to contact Sainsburys and go down the loyal customer route then appeal to POPLA if unsuccessful.Edited by retrorider on Monday 29th December 16:24
Lidl have this in place in Farnham, I think it's 90mins.
Mrs Chris took my Mum there shopping a while back. My Mum isn't the swiftest
and they were there for 2 hrs.
A week later the ticket arrived, £80 I think.
Mrs Chris had kept the receipt for the shopping because she knew a ticket would arrive. She sent a copy of the receipt to the company, with an explanation & the ticket was cancelled.
Mrs Chris took my Mum there shopping a while back. My Mum isn't the swiftest
and they were there for 2 hrs.A week later the ticket arrived, £80 I think.
Mrs Chris had kept the receipt for the shopping because she knew a ticket would arrive. She sent a copy of the receipt to the company, with an explanation & the ticket was cancelled.
you should be able to pay a reduced fee in the first 14 days?
if you appeal within that time the ticket normally stands at the reduced time.
definitely worth appealing - I've managed to get off accidentally paying less for parking once when they upped their prices.
Currently appealing a 5 minute stay outside my sons nursery in the centre of a city with no parking available - the warden wrote me the ticket while I stood there telling her I was leaving and I'd been less than 5 minutes and she'd even seen me park up I was that quick!
just be polite and overly apologetic and say it wont happen again,
if you appeal within that time the ticket normally stands at the reduced time.
definitely worth appealing - I've managed to get off accidentally paying less for parking once when they upped their prices.
Currently appealing a 5 minute stay outside my sons nursery in the centre of a city with no parking available - the warden wrote me the ticket while I stood there telling her I was leaving and I'd been less than 5 minutes and she'd even seen me park up I was that quick!
just be polite and overly apologetic and say it wont happen again,
Seriously, just write to Sainsburys immediately. It'll all be over within days. Forget all this "ignore it / wait for them to take you to court" nonsense. Unless you enjoy big legal fights with powerful parking management companies and a lot of stress on top.
Write to Sainsburys, right now.
Write to Sainsburys, right now.
zarjaz1991 said:
Ignoting it doesn't work. Used to have some success, at one time, but the rules have changed since then.
Write to Sainsburys outlining the genuine circumstances - I'd be amazed if they dont get it cancelled for you. They are quite accustomed to this sort of thing happening and are very good at the customer service aspect of it - unlike councils.
My daughter had a similar issue with Morrison's and they cancelled it.Write to Sainsburys outlining the genuine circumstances - I'd be amazed if they dont get it cancelled for you. They are quite accustomed to this sort of thing happening and are very good at the customer service aspect of it - unlike councils.
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