GT4 or modded Cayman R

GT4 or modded Cayman R

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PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

264 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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5th gear for the poor or people who don't pay for TV like me

Cayman R test is now on their site :-)

http://youtu.be/o5EkUiPqtKA

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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fioran0 said:
The twin chamber air/oil separator works by simply having a second chamber as an overspill for the first creating more volume capacity. The regular separator can end up with too much oil in it under some track conditions (high g load turns) and this then returns to the intake and is blown out as a puff of smoke. From memory its as much about the drain side of the system under loading becoming slow rather than an increase in oil blown up but its been a long time since I looked at an M9X engine so I may be misremembering here. By fitting the twin chamber version, the larger capacity gives some extra oil capacity to provide a buffer for the few seconds where its needed.
Neil, this would suggest that the stock AOS would only allow oil into it through either left or right high g turns and not both. If this is the case, do you know which it is?

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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anonymous said:
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Hopefully left handers given that most UK circuits have a preponderance of right handers.

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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A tad OT but it's encouraging to see no less than ten Caymans entered in this year's Daytona 24 hour. I would assume from this that the US is a lot further down the road in terms of track development with this car than we are over here.

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/files/race_resul...


Edited by Trev450 on Friday 23 January 17:08

CheesyFootballs

14,673 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Trev450 said:
A tad OT but it's encouraging to see no less than ten Caymans entered in this year's Daytona 24 hour. I would assume from this that the US is a lot further down the road in terms of track development with this car than we are over here.

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/files/race_resul...


Edited by Trev450 on Friday 23 January 17:08
Do they have adjustable LCA's?

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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CheesyFootballs said:
Trev450 said:
A tad OT but it's encouraging to see no less than ten Caymans entered in this year's Daytona 24 hour. I would assume from this that the US is a lot further down the road in terms of track development with this car than we are over here.

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/files/race_resul...


Edited by Trev450 on Friday 23 January 17:08
Do they have adjustable LCA's?
I don't know the spec of them I'm sorry.

fioran0

2,410 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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CheesyFootballs said:
Do they have adjustable LCA's?
Haha. Too funny.

Trev, as someone who -normally- spends as much time if not more on the other side of the Atlantic as this side its incredible to see how far behind folks on this side are (and I lump owners, specialists and race shops in there). That's certainly the case with the 911s and now also the Caymans. It's been that way for the entire period I have been involved with Porsche cars - since mid 996 era.

gtsralph

1,186 posts

143 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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See this for spec of one BGB Motorsports build

http://www.planet-9.com/cars-sponsor-dealers/10372...

gtsralph

1,186 posts

143 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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See this for spec of one BGB Motorsports build

http://www.planet-9.com/cars-sponsor-dealers/10372...

fioran0

2,410 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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That's a GTP class car from the Cayman Interseries by the looks of it. A Cayman only race series set up in the US.
If you haven't clicked on the link to look at the car its definitely worth having a peek imho.
The interseries site is www.trophycupracing.com if you want to find out more.


Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 24th January 01:49

fioran0

2,410 posts

171 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Trev450 said:
Hopefully left handers given that most UK circuits have a preponderance of right handers.
It is the left side on the Cayman from memory. It was right on the 996 and the engine is reversed between the two cars.

fioran0

2,410 posts

171 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Trev450 said:
A tad OT but it's encouraging to see no less than ten Caymans entered in this year's Daytona 24 hour.
The GS and ST classes in the Conti Challenge ran earlier today (friday) in whats called the BMW Performance 200. It happens the day before the 24hr race and is about 2hrs 30 mins of racing.
Caymans came 1 and 2 in the class and would have had a 1,2 and 3 but one ran out of fuel 2 laps from the end while in the lead. Caymans featured 4 out of the top 10 though so a great showing indeed. The fastest lap for a Cayman was 2.05.493
The race itself was won by a 997 Carrera GTS with a fastest lap of 1.57.964 so teams running Porsche cars did really well today getting both the overall win and wins in each class.

Just to add in, the fastest qualifying times for a Porsche car in the GTLM and GTD classes for the full 24 hr race were 1.44.082 for the RSR - putting it 8th in class - and 1.47.451 for the 911 GT - putting it 2nd in class.

Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 24th January 02:25

CheesyFootballs

14,673 posts

188 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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I've noticed the same with M cars - over there, they drive them straight from the dealer to a tuner for ecu, trick suspension, better brakes etc.

It appears they have no fear of warranty issues.
We lag a long way behind

Slippydiff

14,742 posts

222 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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CheesyFootballs said:
I've noticed the same with M cars - over there, they drive them straight from the dealer to a tuner for ecu, trick suspension, better brakes etc.

It appears they have no fear of warranty issues.
We lag a long way behind
As I understand it the warranty issue is different in the US. In essence you can modify your car with an upgraded suspension kit, big brake kit, anti roll bar kit, exhaust, seats, wheels etc etc etc, and if you have a an issue with your water pump, your warranty is still valid, only if it can be proved that the fitment of an upgraded part was the cause of the water pump's failure, will your warranty be voided.


From the interweb :

Aftermarket parts or modifications: This aspect of warranty coverage has a great deal of gray area. Although many dealers would have you think otherwise, simply having an aftermarket part or modifying your vehicle cannot void your warranty.

Some dealerships may say, for example, that just because you have a performance part such as a cold air intake on the car that the whole vehicle warranty is void, says Loren Wong, a car enthusiast and a former warranty administrator for BMW and Acura. "That's not true," he says.

The saving grace for consumers is the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975. The act states that a dealer must prove that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before it can deny warranty coverage.

However, if the reason for a parts failure is unclear, a dealer will usually charge you to diagnose the vehicle. If the aftermarket part was not properly installed or a modification led to a component failure, it is within the dealer's right to void the warranty for that part, and you will have to pay for the repairs out of pocket. If the aftermarket parts had nothing to do with the repairs in question, you will be refunded the fee for the diagnosis.

Any aftermarket performance parts on your vehicle can cause a dealer to suspect that you either drive the car hard or possibly race it. "Although they may not void warranties," Wong added, "modifications may raise a red flag when vehicles are in for service. If consumers who mod their cars do a little research, they may find certain dealerships that are a little more 'mod-friendly.'"

Best make yourself a cup of tea for this one :

http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/guides/ftc/warrantie...

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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fioran0 said:
Trev450 said:
Hopefully left handers given that most UK circuits have a preponderance of right handers.
It is the left side on the Cayman from memory. It was right on the 996 and the engine is reversed between the two cars.
That's good to know and possibly explains why I haven't had any smoking issues yet.

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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fioran0 said:
Trev450 said:
A tad OT but it's encouraging to see no less than ten Caymans entered in this year's Daytona 24 hour.
The GS and ST classes in the Conti Challenge ran earlier today (friday) in whats called the BMW Performance 200. It happens the day before the 24hr race and is about 2hrs 30 mins of racing.
Caymans came 1 and 2 in the class and would have had a 1,2 and 3 but one ran out of fuel 2 laps from the end while in the lead. Caymans featured 4 out of the top 10 though so a great showing indeed. The fastest lap for a Cayman was 2.05.493
The race itself was won by a 997 Carrera GTS with a fastest lap of 1.57.964 so teams running Porsche cars did really well today getting both the overall win and wins in each class.

Just to add in, the fastest qualifying times for a Porsche car in the GTLM and GTD classes for the full 24 hr race were 1.44.082 for the RSR - putting it 8th in class - and 1.47.451 for the 911 GT - putting it 2nd in class.

Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 24th January 02:25
Yes its great to see that the Cayman is starting to be considered as a real contender and as a result, ongoing development is gaining in pace.

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

264 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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anonymous said:
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I modded my Cayman way back in 2006 , my TTRS went just about from the dealer (I bought it brand new) to get tuned.
The UK is st, UK punters are scared and there are NO real tuning houses at all, just copy cat firms selling USA tunes for double he money 4 years later !
I was also the 1st to do a ported head change on the Lotus S2 Elise back in 2001, and modded my car to fit a ported S1 head.

Tuning is fun,

As for paying £375k for an RS 4.0 that's all the UK is interested in, all this flash cash and has no one got a Sharkwerks 4.1 RS in he UK ?

Is a poor show in the UK bar a bit of GTR tuning.

FrankCayman

2,121 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
I modded my Cayman way back in 2006
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I saw you'd blacked the windows out on that....very USA!

Trev450

6,314 posts

171 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
anonymous said:
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I modded my Cayman way back in 2006 , my TTRS went just about from the dealer (I bought it brand new) to get tuned.
The UK is st, UK punters are scared and there are NO real tuning houses at all, just copy cat firms selling USA tunes for double he money 4 years later !
I was also the 1st to do a ported head change on the Lotus S2 Elise back in 2001, and modded my car to fit a ported S1 head.

Tuning is fun,

As for paying £375k for an RS 4.0 that's all the UK is interested in, all this flash cash and has no one got a Sharkwerks 4.1 RS in he UK ?

Is a poor show in the UK bar a bit of GTR tuning.
I ported my Mini Cooper S cylinder head myself back in 1970 and have been modifying cars ever since.

The point cmoose was making is that when compaired to the US, the UK is far less visible in terms of what's being done.

fioran0

2,410 posts

171 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Trev450 said:
Yes its great to see that the Cayman is starting to be considered as a real contender and as a result, ongoing development is gaining in pace.
Indeed, or at least that it can be gotten out there and done something with.
In the context of this thread what is of interest also is the 997 GTS that won the GS class. That class is similar to GT4 in terms of the cars (there were GT4 class cars running in GS yesterday). It will be interesting to see how close the upcoming Cayman GT4 is on paper then to the performance levels of a 997 GTS once the final details of the road variant are released.

Edited by fioran0 on Saturday 24th January 11:00