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Eric Mc

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265 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Very good that they pinned the problem down so quickly. Let's hope they get back on track without too much delay.

Mojocvh

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Friday 24th July 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Very good that they pinned the problem down so quickly. Let's hope they get back on track without too much delay.
yes

Quite incredible that they used accelerometers as acoustic sensors to triangulate "where the noise" came from...

London424

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175 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Launches will be delayed a bit longer, but with the upgraded Falcon 9.

http://spacenews.com/spacex-to-debut-upgraded-falc...

Toaster

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Friday 4th September 2015
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Mojocvh said:
yes

Quite incredible that they used accelerometers as acoustic sensors to triangulate "where the noise" came from...
Not really it is an established technique

Eric Mc

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Saturday 5th September 2015
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Even if it is an established technique, it's still clever.

Mojocvh

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Saturday 5th September 2015
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Toaster said:
Mojocvh said:
yes

Quite incredible that they used accelerometers as acoustic sensors to triangulate "where the noise" came from...
Not really it is an established technique
Really?

Could you point me towards some online information as I find the use of a primary sensor for a secondary purpose actually quite intriguing from an engineering perspective, thanks.

Toaster

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Saturday 5th September 2015
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Mojocvh said:
Really?

Could you point me towards some online information as I find the use of a primary sensor for a secondary purpose actually quite intriguing from an engineering perspective, thanks.
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/3e19r0/acoustic_triangulation/

http://www-mech.eng.cam.ac.uk/profiles/fleck/paper...

ftp://78.38.77.30/cee/baganji/resonator-filter/References/15.pdf

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0...

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&a...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0...

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0...

Lots of references out there, if you are a uni student you can access via the Uni Library for most of these for £0 but for mere mortals research papers tend to cost unless you can get an Athens or similar access.

There are quite number of others and yes I think Scientists and Engineers can be quite lateral thinkers and when you hear how a technique has been applied it does make you think wow. However those accelerometers possibly had two or more tasks they could carry out so why not use them for an established technique.

Just edited to ask how do you know what the primary use was ?

Edited by Toaster on Saturday 5th September 20:53

Mojocvh

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Sunday 6th September 2015
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To answer your question, I dont! I'm more accustomed to accelerometers being used for rate measurement in control systems.

However there is some "good stuff" there, thank you for listing them.

It is of course correct to call the sensors accelerometers I don't think calling them "knock sensors" would do them justice.

I had personal experience, a couple of years back, of incorrectly fitted "accelerometers" or as they were called g meters, in the nacells of wind turbines causing false warnings and shutdowns along with one case of actual tower vibration limits being exceeded, although it would have been more pleasant as a remote experience.;)

Thanks again for those links

Mo.

Edited by Mojocvh on Sunday 6th September 00:18

MartG

20,658 posts

204 months

Friday 25th September 2015
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Test of the uprated Falcon 9 this week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbe1KNUBEEU

Mojocvh

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Tuesday 17th November 2015
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SpaceX may win its first U.S. military satellite launch after the only other certified bidder, a Boeing Co.-Lockheed Martin Corp. joint venture, decided not to compete.

SpaceX plans to charge less than $100 million for military missions, Chief Operating Officer Gwynne Shotwell told a U.S. House of Representatives subcommittee in March. The Boeing-Lockheed company charges $160 million or more for the comparably sized Atlas V rocket, according to Teal Group estimates.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-17/...

Edited by Mojocvh on Tuesday 17th November 12:58

MartG

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Saturday 21st November 2015
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SpaceX has received its first order from NASA for a crewed flight

http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-orders-spac...

Caruso

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256 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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MartG said:
SpaceX has received its first order from NASA for a crewed flight

http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-orders-spac...
I wonder which they'll manage first, a manned Dragon flight or soft landing a 1st stage successfully. Looking forward to both.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Interesting development following the loss of the Falcon 9 back in June. It seems portions of the rocket have washed up near the Scilly Isles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3494...

MartG

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204 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Interesting development following the loss of the Falcon 9 back in June. It seems portions of the rocket have washed up near the Scilly Isles

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-3494...
Given the encrustation on it, and the time/distance since the explosion, I suspect it's more likely to just be from one of the earlier flights where the stage was discarded - those would probably end up much further East than the exploded one

Eric Mc

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Friday 27th November 2015
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I did think that the level of barnacle growth looked high considering that the rocket section would have been in the water for 5 months. But I'm not a marine biologist so don't really know how quickly an object will become barnacle encrusted.

Gandahar

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128 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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If nothing else they gave sea life a nice place to live. They do say that we explore outer space when we know so little about the oceans. SpaceX does both!

Their first semi submersible

Nice story so not such a sad end to the mission. Some column inches to keep them in the public eye and the good jopb they are doing.


0000

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191 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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From CRS-4 it seems.

MartG

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204 months

Friday 27th November 2015
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0000 said:
From CRS-4 it seems.
Yup

The report on the BBC is utter crap - Reginald Turnill must be turning in his grave frown

Eric Mc

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Saturday 28th November 2015
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Nobody in the media knows anything about aerospace technology any more.

Simpo Two

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265 months

Saturday 28th November 2015
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James Burke was on TV last week - nice to see he's still going. Voice of Apollo.
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