Hoegh Osaka - what was on board?

Hoegh Osaka - what was on board?

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RDMcG

19,142 posts

207 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Does anyone remember the Mazda accident which was similar but worse? 4703 cars, all scrapped:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/cougar-ace-th...

CraigyMc

16,404 posts

236 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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KTF said:
snotrag said:
Nothing, as there not ADL!
Ok so my guess at the bus manufacturer was a bit off but the original question still stands smile
It's more likely to be Optare, and I suppose they'll have to have a chat with the customer about what to do.

Spare tyre

9,566 posts

130 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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i saw this yesterday - really bizarre sight

not sure if its been mentioned but there is some good drone footage

FrankAbagnale

1,702 posts

112 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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RDMcG said:
Does anyone remember the Mazda accident which was similar but worse? 4703 cars, all scrapped:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/cougar-ace-th...
I wonder if any of those cars found their way on the the road when the people at the salvage yard "forgot" to crush some...

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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FrankAbagnale said:
I wonder if any of those cars found their way on the the road when the people at the salvage yard "forgot" to crush some...
Given that they blew all the airbags, destroyed the wheels, etc. in the most legal happy country in the world, I doubt that.

FrankAbagnale

1,702 posts

112 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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KTF said:
Given that they blew all the airbags, destroyed the wheels, etc. in the most legal happy country in the world, I doubt that.
I agree.

But, if it was my scrapyard and there were a few that had minimal damage i'd be very tempted to lose them somewhere!

Pwig

11,956 posts

270 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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I know production cost is much much smaller than you think.

It costs TATA steel 50p to make a new Range Rover bonnet

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Pwig said:
I know production cost is much much smaller than you think.

It costs TATA steel 50p to make a new Range Rover bonnet
because it's made of aluminium?

PositronicRay

27,010 posts

183 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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Pwig said:
I know production cost is much much smaller than you think.

It costs TATA steel 50p to make a new Range Rover bonnet
I find that hard to believe.

spikeyhead

17,314 posts

197 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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PositronicRay said:
Pwig said:
I know production cost is much much smaller than you think.

It costs TATA steel 50p to make a new Range Rover bonnet
I find that hard to believe.
Ah, but there is cost and there is cost. Wear on the press tool, overheads etc all make a massive variation on cost.

FiF

44,069 posts

251 months

Monday 5th January 2015
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I think people would be staggered what the factory door price is of certain cars.

Just to use an out of date example in order to avoid embarrassing anyone.

When the Matiz first came to UK it sold for roughly three and a half k.

It's landed cost was significantly less than one thousand. Significantly less. Factory door without shipping duty fees etc even lower.

More recently a Volvo with list price upper 20s had a factory door cost of less than 9.

dvs_dave

8,623 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Does the factory door cost include the manufacturer overhead?

KarlMac

4,480 posts

141 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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spikeyhead said:
Ah, but there is cost and there is cost. Wear on the press tool, overheads etc all make a massive variation on cost.
In terms of raw material it probably is only a few quid at most. Once you've amortised the tool, paid the bloke to stand there pressing the button, paid off your capital investment for the building, press and robots, plus paid for all the secondary processes you'll have quite an expensive piece.

Cost is a secondary factor, the big issue is order books. I know from working in the industry that JCB have an 8 month lead time on some units at present and I'm sure JLR are making cars as fast as they can, so you can't just 'make some more' without pushing back your entire order book.

Fingers crossed they were sold FOB and its the buyers problem!

Stevoox

367 posts

130 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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KarlMac said:
Fingers crossed they were sold FOB and its the buyers problem!
Yep i was thinking the same. Although from experience would assume not!

I work in Logistics / Freight Forwarding and the previous company i was with used to work with JLR importing vehicles into Africa. JLR would arrange to ship the cars RORO to CFR port of discharge, send us the docs where we would then take over (collect, customs clear and deliver etc).

FiF

44,069 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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dvs_dave said:
Does the factory door cost include the manufacturer overhead?
It depends on how the accountants define it. Think variable costs is perhaps simplest way I see it. The fixed costs are not volume dependent. Hence stay pretty much the same even if you make another couple of thousand more or less.

A very simple view but overheads, marketing, warranty, rates, salaries as opposed to hourly paid wages all not included. So factory door vs list is not fair comparison in terms of looking at a company.

However in the terms of looking at a situation where a quantity of product has been lost at sea (effectively) and those orders still need to be fulfilled then it's a fair way of looking at it imo.

It's an interesting point someone made about the varying Incoterms applicable to the individual agreements will mean different people are at risk throughout the load. Complicated.

epom

11,513 posts

161 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Couple of litres of touch up paint for the JCB's and Shirley they will be fine.... Might even use them in the clear up operation.

FrankAbagnale

1,702 posts

112 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Yet more conflicting reports today - apparently a Wraith was on board.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Loads of good info on gCaptain if anyone is interested
http://gcaptain.com/

Qussz

113 posts

120 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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FrankAbagnale said:
Yet more conflicting reports today - apparently a Wraith was on board.
It does seem like a rum story, but blaming it on a ghost...?

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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