European trip ideas
Discussion
Thinking of taking this route at end of May - but i am guessing the Stelvio pass will probably be closed. Would love to hear from others as to possible journeys to cover:
- Calais to Montreux (Lake Geneva) on day 1
- Montreux to Lake Konstanz (Swiss/German border) on day 2 via the Stelvio Pass (or another pass/es)
- Konstanz to Calais on day 3 through Germany and Belgium, taking in as many unrestricted autobahns as we can find (are they stll around)
So far three of us: 996 Turbo S, AM Vanquish, DB9.....
- Calais to Montreux (Lake Geneva) on day 1
- Montreux to Lake Konstanz (Swiss/German border) on day 2 via the Stelvio Pass (or another pass/es)
- Konstanz to Calais on day 3 through Germany and Belgium, taking in as many unrestricted autobahns as we can find (are they stll around)
So far three of us: 996 Turbo S, AM Vanquish, DB9.....
It's doable in 3 days but a long way to go and I would be inclined to extend it and include a few more passes and take a bit more time generally.
We are doing a trip in June, but taking 12 days out admittedly. However we're including some of the French cols', Mont Ventoux, Route Napoleon, Monaco, a trackday at Imola, the italian lakes, about 5 or 6 Swiss passes (not Stelvio!), the black forest, and the Nurburgring! Plus some mandatory Italian and German factory visits
Happy to trade ideas, as we've planned some good routes (hopefully!)
We are doing a trip in June, but taking 12 days out admittedly. However we're including some of the French cols', Mont Ventoux, Route Napoleon, Monaco, a trackday at Imola, the italian lakes, about 5 or 6 Swiss passes (not Stelvio!), the black forest, and the Nurburgring! Plus some mandatory Italian and German factory visits
Happy to trade ideas, as we've planned some good routes (hopefully!)
sixspeed said:
It's doable in 3 days but a long way to go and I would be inclined to extend it and include a few more passes and take a bit more time generally.
We are doing a trip in June, but taking 12 days out admittedly. However we're including some of the French cols', Mont Ventoux, Route Napoleon, Monaco, a trackday at Imola, the italian lakes, about 5 or 6 Swiss passes (not Stelvio!), the black forest, and the Nurburgring! Plus some mandatory Italian and German factory visits
Happy to trade ideas, as we've planned some good routes (hopefully!)
Very much agree with this. We quite easily filled two weeks just in the Black Forest and doing the Andermatt Loop last Sept. There are plenty of excellent roads in the Black Forest if you know where to go. We are doing a trip in June, but taking 12 days out admittedly. However we're including some of the French cols', Mont Ventoux, Route Napoleon, Monaco, a trackday at Imola, the italian lakes, about 5 or 6 Swiss passes (not Stelvio!), the black forest, and the Nurburgring! Plus some mandatory Italian and German factory visits
Happy to trade ideas, as we've planned some good routes (hopefully!)
Makes more sense to pick a specific area and concentrate on it rather than racing all over Europe for the odd few well known peaks imho.
Sorry, none that we did were up in that neck of the woods. I was told that the better routes were in the south and south west of the Black Forest closer to the French and Swiss borders and indeed we did some excellent drives there. Based on my own experience, I would say just plan your routes on the "L" roads. They seem well surfaced, lightly trafficked and lightly policed. Hope this helps
Thanks, will do. I'm heading to Prague (U21 football) so I need to keep to a fairly direct route so the southern part of the forest is a bit too much of a detour. I'm hoping that taking the forest will give some opportunity for scenic driving at least and also there will be some unrestricted autobahn between there are the Czech border to make it a bit interesting. Have got plenty of nice places to stay and visit on the route.
Cheers
Cheers
sixspeed said:
We are doing a trip in June, but taking 12 days out admittedly. However we're including some of the French cols', Mont Ventoux, Route Napoleon, Monaco, a trackday at Imola, the italian lakes, about 5 or 6 Swiss passes (not Stelvio!), the black forest, and the Nurburgring! Plus some mandatory Italian and German factory visits
Agree totally about taking your time. It's all very well saying you can do 500 miles a day but if it's ordinary roads that's a lot of driving and if it's motorway it's boring.
FYI Mont Ventoux is best avoided on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays - too many cyclists.
Route Nap - more by accident than design we once ended up driving it North to South after 1800hrs.
We had it to ourselves bar one campervan so what is already a stunning drive turned out to be historic.
HTH.
Cheers, Pewe.
I reckon 250 miles per day is a manageable amount. If you're doing passes then that can be eight hours driving.
The old man and I are off to the Rechberg Hillclimb in April and doing some advanced planning on our route. So much to see and do on Continental Europe. It's so bloody exciting!
The old man and I are off to the Rechberg Hillclimb in April and doing some advanced planning on our route. So much to see and do on Continental Europe. It's so bloody exciting!
pewe said:
Agree totally about taking your time.
It's all very well saying you can do 500 miles a day but if it's ordinary roads that's a lot of driving and if it's motorway it's boring.
FYI Mont Ventoux is best avoided on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays - too many cyclists.
Route Nap - more by accident than design we once ended up driving it North to South after 1800hrs.
We had it to ourselves bar one campervan so what is already a stunning drive turned out to be historic.
HTH.
Cheers, Pewe.
Thanks for the heads up! We're doing Mont Ventoux on a Thursday so fingers crossed. We'll also be staying just a few miles away, so should hit it early morning.... We're then heading over to Nice to stay at Monaco for the evening and the next day. It's all very well saying you can do 500 miles a day but if it's ordinary roads that's a lot of driving and if it's motorway it's boring.
FYI Mont Ventoux is best avoided on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays - too many cyclists.
Route Nap - more by accident than design we once ended up driving it North to South after 1800hrs.
We had it to ourselves bar one campervan so what is already a stunning drive turned out to be historic.
HTH.
Cheers, Pewe.
Is the Col de Turini worth doing on the way? We could take it in, but looking at it on street view etc it's hard to say whether it's really that good a road by car? I'm more tempted to go up the Col de Vence at the moment, having see a few Evo articles/videos from when they went that way in the Enzo. Looks to be some better roads suited to cars maybe? Also we're only touching a small section of the Napoleon....
In fact - here is our route: http://goo.gl/AWQXnV Any recommendations/tweaks?
Sorry for the slight thread hijack, but hopefully it will provide useful info for all
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