speeding in excess of 100mph
Discussion
jjr1 said:
Go to court and don't bother with a solicitor, that just winds up the magistrates. Wear a suit and be very sorry. Don't even bother with an excuse as there aren't any. You will be in the s
t if you say something like, 'I just didn't notice the speed build up', etc etc.
When asked if there is anything they should take into consideration, lay it on thick, with 'my family need me as I am the only bread winner', etc etc and then look very sombre.
Worked a treat for me and got me a 21 day ban and I was going a boat load faster than a 100 !
Depends on the jp'st if you say something like, 'I just didn't notice the speed build up', etc etc.When asked if there is anything they should take into consideration, lay it on thick, with 'my family need me as I am the only bread winner', etc etc and then look very sombre.
Worked a treat for me and got me a 21 day ban and I was going a boat load faster than a 100 !
hardship is only if someone other than the driver will suffer and then if its exceptional hardship.
Some jps are better on it than others and its seems to be up to them to decide how much they take that into account. I had a jp in the family and his attitude to 100mph drivers was very harsh he wanted a 6 month ban for totting up for me.
On the other hand if I mugged 90 year ladies leaving them bruised in the gutter you needed help for a dodgy upbringing and conditional discharge.
I got 21 day ban and £150 fine. Under exceptional hardship I also had a report from work saying I was good at my job they needed me and 6 month would me they had to get rid of me etc.
Jesus wept, it really is getting quite bad out there isn't it ?
I changed my work vehicle from a BMW 2.8 litre straight six, to a VW Caddy van (the van is genuinely better for work), up until then (about 18 months ago), on the motorway network when conditions would allow, I exceeded 100 mph most days, nobody died, I just used a bit little more fuel.
The do gooders said they intended to make speeding as anti social as drink driving, it looks like they are gradually doing so.
At this rate having a nice engine in a nice car will soon be a waste of time.
I changed my work vehicle from a BMW 2.8 litre straight six, to a VW Caddy van (the van is genuinely better for work), up until then (about 18 months ago), on the motorway network when conditions would allow, I exceeded 100 mph most days, nobody died, I just used a bit little more fuel.
The do gooders said they intended to make speeding as anti social as drink driving, it looks like they are gradually doing so.
At this rate having a nice engine in a nice car will soon be a waste of time.
Nigel Worc's said:
The do gooders said they intended to make speeding as anti social as drink driving, it looks like they are gradually doing so.
Nope, because the vast majority of drivers still exceed the limit. And most intelligent people recognise that exceeding an arbitrary posted limit is not inherently dangerous.jbsportstech said:
This was 10 years ago, has this changed or did the jp who advise me at the time tell me wrong?
If he said "must be" or "only if" then that was wrong then (as it is now) - see section 35 RTA 1988. There is no requirement that the (exceptional) hardship is to anyone other than the offender; R. v Preston [1986] RTR 136. However, hardship to persons other than the offender may more readily be considered 'exceptional hardship" than hardship to the offender alone.
In any event, unless OP already has 6 or more relevant points then "exceptional hardship" doesn't apply to exceeding a speed limit.
Edited by agtlaw on Sunday 1st February 17:26
I can't think of many safer places to travel at 100+ than the majestic four lane section of the A1 near Peterborough. It's almost as if the design team forgot to do the value engineering bit of the design process.
There was a happy time in the 1980s when it was possible to cruise at 100+ along most of the A1 on a summer's evening (bar the roundabouts), keeping an eye out for lurking plod in his Rover/Granada/Jag. No fixed cameras, no camera vans, no lasers picking you off at 1000 yards.
The good old days eh!? I remember when <snip>
There was a happy time in the 1980s when it was possible to cruise at 100+ along most of the A1 on a summer's evening (bar the roundabouts), keeping an eye out for lurking plod in his Rover/Granada/Jag. No fixed cameras, no camera vans, no lasers picking you off at 1000 yards.
The good old days eh!? I remember when <snip>
V8 Fettler said:
I can't think of many safer places to travel at 100+ than the majestic four lane section of the A1 near Peterborough. It's almost as if the design team forgot to do the value engineering bit of the design process.
There was a happy time in the 1980s when it was possible to cruise at 100+ along most of the A1 on a summer's evening (bar the roundabouts), keeping an eye out for lurking plod in his Rover/Granada/Jag. No fixed cameras, no camera vans, no lasers picking you off at 1000 yards.
The good old days eh!? I remember when <snip>
Yep, remember it well, used to do the Peterborough to Manchester return trip regularly via A1/M62 in the 80's/90's, a steady speed as mentioned for most of the trip was normal, nobody died, wife used to sleep most of the way! Luxury etc etc There was a happy time in the 1980s when it was possible to cruise at 100+ along most of the A1 on a summer's evening (bar the roundabouts), keeping an eye out for lurking plod in his Rover/Granada/Jag. No fixed cameras, no camera vans, no lasers picking you off at 1000 yards.
The good old days eh!? I remember when <snip>
Going to court yourself and speaking will clearly show that your bricking it - they will hear it in your voice. Speak through a solicitor and how can they see your sorry?
Get yourself suited and booted - make some notes and be well prepared as to why you cant make alternative arrangements for your transport.
I was there in 2010 for 104 on a MW.
The PF asked me, amongst many other things:
Why cant I use public transport - I work all over the UK and often in remote areas - And often many miles apart on each day week.
Why cant your wife drive you - She cant drive (couldnt then, can now)
Can you get an office role - Not likely as had no experience and the office was in Swindon (I live in Scotland)
Can you take time off work if you were banned - No, already in debt and as a contractor the client would just replace me and they would have no cause to re engage my services
Can you get another local job - No, not paying the same kind of income that I was used too and based my outgoings on
Have you any friends that can drive you around - Yes - She took me to court - I pointed to her - But the fact that she was a she meant I would have to pay for two hotels (in fairness, she didn't work and had genuinely offered to do so if needed) so the cost would of been prohibitive (plus her idea of a hotel was a lot posher than mine while working away).
If I had been banned for more than a couple of weeks we really would of suffered financially at the time. I said at the end that if I did leave with a fine & points rather than a ban then I could swear that she wouldnt see me in that court ever again.
I left with 6 points and £400 fine.
Get yourself suited and booted - make some notes and be well prepared as to why you cant make alternative arrangements for your transport.
I was there in 2010 for 104 on a MW.
The PF asked me, amongst many other things:
Why cant I use public transport - I work all over the UK and often in remote areas - And often many miles apart on each day week.
Why cant your wife drive you - She cant drive (couldnt then, can now)
Can you get an office role - Not likely as had no experience and the office was in Swindon (I live in Scotland)
Can you take time off work if you were banned - No, already in debt and as a contractor the client would just replace me and they would have no cause to re engage my services
Can you get another local job - No, not paying the same kind of income that I was used too and based my outgoings on
Have you any friends that can drive you around - Yes - She took me to court - I pointed to her - But the fact that she was a she meant I would have to pay for two hotels (in fairness, she didn't work and had genuinely offered to do so if needed) so the cost would of been prohibitive (plus her idea of a hotel was a lot posher than mine while working away).
If I had been banned for more than a couple of weeks we really would of suffered financially at the time. I said at the end that if I did leave with a fine & points rather than a ban then I could swear that she wouldnt see me in that court ever again.
I left with 6 points and £400 fine.
I got caught doing 104mph on the M40 in early morning rush hour. Pulled out into the third lane and accelerated into a large gap to get in front of traffic. Police on the hard shoulder pinging people.
Long story short, 6 week ban and £400 fine. No points. I was circa 18/19 years of age.
I took a solicitor in with me, i just looked sorry as possible in my nicest suit i had. I had no excuse for my behaviour and took it on the chin.
Longest six weeks ever socially.
Long story short, 6 week ban and £400 fine. No points. I was circa 18/19 years of age.
I took a solicitor in with me, i just looked sorry as possible in my nicest suit i had. I had no excuse for my behaviour and took it on the chin.
Longest six weeks ever socially.
Nigel Worc's said:
At this rate having a nice engine in a nice car will soon be a waste of time.
I've already come to that conclusion after getting my 1st 3 points in 40 yrs of driving, not bothering with any more TVR's etc (was planning on a 911 GT3 RS) and will just have a small car (Cleo) for the station run and a 4X4 for the winter bad weather (Somerset). Today I went to my local screwfix and popped into town total of 12 miles (ish) saw 3 (yes three) camera vans in that short journey.Sad really,
Edited by L1OFF on Saturday 24th January 16:23
Hi, I got done for rather a lot more than 100...
Consider the conditions, was it - a clear day, light traffic, dry road (motorway/a/b road), clean licence, not drunk, not driving dangerously or without due car or attention.
They will consider these, then you. Are you smart, contrite and polite? ie wear a suit and say "Sir/Madam, I made a mistake and I'm terribly sorry" DO NOT MAKE EXCUSES.
Once you've filled in the disclosure of income (done before you get there) they will consider the fine.
Consider a plea of hardship to keep your licence. They can either give points and a fine or a ban and a fine.
I got points (6) and a hefty fine and the Court usher said 'he NEVER does that!' ie always a ban...
If he/she bks you, whatever, take it, accept it etc remember>>>contrite and polite or the punishment considered might be reconsidered!
Mostly already said but that's my experience
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Solicitors are, in cases like this, largely not needed as long as you heed advice from others here, I would say. However, that is MY opinion only, take one if you want it's your right and the Magistrate shouldn't hold it against you but the costs will increase and you're getting a whopping fine as it is. I called in a favour from a solicitor friend who wrote a nice letter but we discussed it together.
I expressed reasons why I needed to keep my licence and they were credible, not 'I need it to commute to work' it was More than that. Still, you will find out how it all works in due course but either way don't be downhearted whatever happens, just learn and move on chap
Consider the conditions, was it - a clear day, light traffic, dry road (motorway/a/b road), clean licence, not drunk, not driving dangerously or without due car or attention.
They will consider these, then you. Are you smart, contrite and polite? ie wear a suit and say "Sir/Madam, I made a mistake and I'm terribly sorry" DO NOT MAKE EXCUSES.
Once you've filled in the disclosure of income (done before you get there) they will consider the fine.
Consider a plea of hardship to keep your licence. They can either give points and a fine or a ban and a fine.
I got points (6) and a hefty fine and the Court usher said 'he NEVER does that!' ie always a ban...
If he/she b
ks you, whatever, take it, accept it etc remember>>>contrite and polite or the punishment considered might be reconsidered!Mostly already said but that's my experience
nb
Solicitors are, in cases like this, largely not needed as long as you heed advice from others here, I would say. However, that is MY opinion only, take one if you want it's your right and the Magistrate shouldn't hold it against you but the costs will increase and you're getting a whopping fine as it is. I called in a favour from a solicitor friend who wrote a nice letter but we discussed it together.
I expressed reasons why I needed to keep my licence and they were credible, not 'I need it to commute to work' it was More than that. Still, you will find out how it all works in due course but either way don't be downhearted whatever happens, just learn and move on chap
Edited by Oilchange on Saturday 24th January 19:01
hefte said:
hi/ can anyone advise what the outcome is likely to be as ive been stopped on the A1 peterborough area doing speed of 100mph im due in court next month,im obviously pleading guilty but what im i looking at can anyone help,and do i need a solicitor to represent me and do i return my guilt by writing or i should go to court..
Rape and pillage spring to mind.TX.
Prior to court trade your car for a Renault Zoe. Its limited to 83mph so you have a 100% solid argument you'll never exceed 100mph or excessively speed again. The money you save not paying Petrol/tax/servicing will pay the fine too and you'll have a sense of F you to the criminal powers that be by not lining there pockets. Free parking as well.
It might work?
It might work?
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