2015 Lotus E23

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Jordan210

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4,519 posts

183 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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First pics of the new Merc powered E23









More images on Lotus's site

http://www.lotusf1team.com/news-archive/meet-the-e...



Edited by Jordan210 on Monday 26th January 14:25

Sammo123

2,103 posts

181 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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I really like that. Can't quite put my finger on why, but I do biggrin

andburg

7,286 posts

169 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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nowhere near as neatly packaged as the Williams are the rear / side and the nose is a very simple design, less elegant than the Force India....ugliest car so far!

thatguy11

640 posts

123 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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May be the ugliest so far, but still a looker in my book! Especially compared to last year's abomination. So three cars revealed now, and all three are far from munters. Can the ball keep rolling?

Predicting the RB11 will be attractive too, Newey's cars tend to be pretty no matter what the regulations.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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thatguy11 said:
Predicting the RB11 will be attractive too, Newey's cars tend to be pretty no matter what the regulations.
No longer Newey's car though...

Altrezia

8,517 posts

211 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Shame it's a render and not the actual car - but I think it's the best looking car so far. It looks a bit F3 =)

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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I think what worries me most about that rendering is how significant a sponsor PDVSA now are to Lotus - ie the money that comes with carbonfibre reshaping enthusiast and part time racing driver Pastor Maldonado.

Rexona now appear on the Williams, and Burn (the Coca Cola energy drink brand) seems to have disappeared too.

Lotus really needs a good season to start attracting some decent sponsorship, and for that you need 2 drivers capable of regulalrly finishing in the points.

thatguy11

640 posts

123 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Vocal Minority said:
thatguy11 said:
Predicting the RB11 will be attractive too, Newey's cars tend to be pretty no matter what the regulations.
No longer Newey's car though...
The RB11 is still a Newey car but will be his last, since '15 cars are designed during the '14 season, during which time he was still very much a full-time RB employee

G0ldfysh

3,304 posts

257 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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thatguy11 said:
The RB11 is still a Newey car but will be his last, since '15 cars are designed during the '14 season, during which time he was still very much a full-time RB employee
I thought he had been scaling down his involvement all year though? He is still very much an employee of course, just doing other things.

thatguy11

640 posts

123 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Vocal Minority said:
thatguy11 said:
The RB11 is still a Newey car but will be his last, since '15 cars are designed during the '14 season, during which time he was still very much a full-time RB employee
I thought he had been scaling down his involvement all year though? He is still very much an employee of course, just doing other things.
He has scaled back slightly now, but still led the design on the 2015 car. He'll most likely stay pretty hands-on for the first half of the season, then step back a more after the summer break

RosscoPCole

3,318 posts

174 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Gold wheels in F1 are cool.
This makes the Lotus cool.

NRS

22,152 posts

201 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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PW said:
Those are pretty shoddy images - really low poly 3D model and compression artifacts in the background. You'd expect official PR material from an F1 team to be better quality than what hobbyists come up with in their spare time for fun.

Oh well, I look forward to seeing Maldonado smash it into the barriers.
I suspect they don't care too much. They're not going to post hi-res shots of all the details are they, wink

sanf

673 posts

172 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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This years cars are looking better for definite.

Technical question - after the initial testing of the Merc last year when the front wing failed, what has been discovered (is the process) for keeping the front wings attached the cars? The seem to have such a small cross section holding the wing on - especially considering how big the loads are. Both Williams and Lotus have created cars where the wing seems to be positioned right at the front of the vertical fins holding it in place. They look too flimsy!!

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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andburg said:
nowhere near as neatly packaged as the Williams are the rear / side and the nose is a very simple design, less elegant than the Force India....ugliest car so far!
Isn't the Force India image last years car with a bodged nose-cone and this year's livery on it?

Edited by kambites on Monday 26th January 18:21

paolow

3,209 posts

258 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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sanf said:
This years cars are looking better for definite.

Technical question - after the initial testing of the Merc last year when the front wing failed, what has been discovered (is the process) for keeping the front wings attached the cars? The seem to have such a small cross section holding the wing on - especially considering how big the loads are. Both Williams and Lotus have created cars where the wing seems to be positioned right at the front of the vertical fins holding it in place. They look too flimsy!!
Mercedes did the same last year - I don't doubt there will be titanium inserts to carry the load - how the hell you keep it stable though with all that force and such a small connective footprint is anyones guess though. And like you say - why have large wing props if you dont use all of them - unless for aesthetics or air channeling I spose....
Hmmm - I realise in response to your question I have added nothing of value - hopefully someone that knows can answer!

andburg

7,286 posts

169 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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paolow said:
how the hell you keep it stable though with all that force and such a small connective footprint is anyones guess though
With a leaf spring hidden in rubber if you're Adrian Newey!

celicawrc

3,346 posts

150 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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RosscoPCole said:
Gold wheels in F1 are cool.
This makes the Lotus cool.

+1

I wish Ferrari would bring back the gold BBS wheels! cloud9


Redlake27

2,255 posts

244 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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kambites said:
andburg said:
nowhere near as neatly packaged as the Williams are the rear / side and the nose is a very simple design, less elegant than the Force India....ugliest car so far!
Isn't the Force India image last years car with a bodged nose-cone and this year's livery on it?

Edited by kambites on Monday 26th January 18:21
It is...the new Force India isn't ready yet.

I'm a bit fed up with these 'launches' . The Williams is a drawing released to F1 Racing, the Force India is a 14 car....

Looking forward to the McLaren Honda launch though....that has to be a new car!

Mr_Thyroid

1,995 posts

227 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Money obviously very tight at Lotus - can't afford a decent render.