V12V Coupe

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sukh_m

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191 months

Phil74891

1,064 posts

132 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Perfect spec!

cayman-black

12,624 posts

215 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Yes i see that was reduced today. A good buy,

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

269 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Black/black/black with some extra black on the side.

DAVIDOXE

494 posts

113 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Nothing looks as good as a polished black car - for the 10 minutes it will look that way.
Never again after the last one, Merc though not Aston.

Having said that and having just bought one it looks fantastic value!

hashluck

1,611 posts

274 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Black is not a colour, it is a full-time job

SFO

5,162 posts

182 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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mikey k

13,011 posts

215 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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KarlFranz said:
Black/black/black with some extra black on the side.
hehe great when its clean
I'm guessing it a Carbon Black edition wink

AdamV12V

4,987 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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mikey k said:
hehe great when its clean
I'm guessing it a Carbon Black edition wink
Nope its Onyx and doesn't have the piano centre pieces and steering wheel insert, so its just a Std V12V in black spec.

V8 Animal

5,914 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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mikey k said:
hehe great when its clean
I'm guessing it a Carbon Black edition wink
I've found the carbon black doesn't show the dirt as much as my old black one did.

sukh_m

Original Poster:

1,325 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Black is an absolute bd to keep clean but it's the best colour by far biggrin

Waxing helps.

Cheib

23,110 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Hadn't realised these were at this "price point" now. The differential between the ~"normal" car and the "S" seems too high to me. Broadly 2012 Vantage's are mid/high 80's with 2013 S's 25k higher....sure it's a more powerful car but for some people the manual box is preferable. £25k difference seems to much to me.

What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.

ds2000

2,681 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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That is seriously cheap. Always seems there are some January bargains to be had smile

cayman-black

12,624 posts

215 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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AdamV12V said:
Nope its Onyx and doesn't have the piano centre pieces and steering wheel insert, so its just a Std V12V in black spec.
Steering wheel insert ?

AdamV12V

4,987 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Cheib said:
Hadn't realised these were at this "price point" now. The differential between the ~"normal" car and the "S" seems too high to me. Broadly 2012 Vantage's are mid/high 80's with 2013 S's 25k higher....sure it's a more powerful car but for some people the manual box is preferable. £25k difference seems to much to me.

What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
I think the problem was that the V12V was launched to the market when buyers and cash were in short supply, so with the exception of a handful of eager early adopters very few people actually paid RRP, indeed very considerable discounts were available if you asked. This clearly had a knock on effect on used prices, and they are proving slow to recover from this.

The V12VS was launched into a different market, with less stock supplied to the UK, and therefore dealers have been less keen to discount and certainly nowhere near the same level, so you are basically comparing two cars which are very similar, but which would have sold at say £40k-£50k difference in price.

V12VS prices are now softening as used stock is steadily increasing, and V12V prices seem to be holding firm as used stock dwindles, but as you point out, 5-10yrs from now there is likely to be almost no difference in prices. I suspect mileage and condition will be the driving factor on price, rather than model or age - indeed I'd not be surprised if the manual cars end up worth more, despite the fact they are all older.

cayman-black said:
AdamV12V said:
Nope its Onyx and doesn't have the piano centre pieces and steering wheel insert, so its just a Std V12V in black spec.
Steering wheel insert ?
Yes, on the Carbon Black edition the silver ring insert on the face of the steering wheel is gloss black (As I believe it is on the V12VS also now).

Carbon Black V12V interior:


Std V12V interior

Phil74891

1,064 posts

132 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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V12VS interior. Note also black air vent surrounds.


Cheib

23,110 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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AdamV12V said:
Cheib said:
Hadn't realised these were at this "price point" now. The differential between the ~"normal" car and the "S" seems too high to me. Broadly 2012 Vantage's are mid/high 80's with 2013 S's 25k higher....sure it's a more powerful car but for some people the manual box is preferable. £25k difference seems to much to me.

What will be very interesting to see in two or three years time what the price differential is for the two cars.
I think the problem was that the V12V was launched to the market when buyers and cash were in short supply, so with the exception of a handful of eager early adopters very few people actually paid RRP, indeed very considerable discounts were available if you asked. This clearly had a knock on effect on used prices, and they are proving slow to recover from this.

The V12VS was launched into a different market, with less stock supplied to the UK, and therefore dealers have been less keen to discount and certainly nowhere near the same level, so you are basically comparing two cars which are very similar, but which would have sold at say £40k-£50k difference in price.

V12VS prices are now softening as used stock is steadily increasing, and V12V prices seem to be holding firm as used stock dwindles, but as you point out, 5-10yrs from now there is likely to be almost no difference in prices. I suspect mileage and condition will be the driving factor on price, rather than model or age - indeed I'd not be surprised if the manual cars end up worth more, despite the fact they are all older.
I think you're right....think the manual car will be worth more in 5 to 10 years. Especially as almost certainly it'll be one of the last with a naturally aspirated V12.

bobbym

220 posts

182 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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So where do people think the v12v prices will bottom? Early Gallardo prices seem to have bottomed, and this is much rarer. Very tempted having owned an early v8, though was somewhat underwhelmed by its lack of power. A thumping v12 in the front should cure that shortcoming!

JeffYoung

199 posts

247 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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I just bought a 2012.5 V12V in the US. One of the "final forty." 3 of 40 to be exact.

I paid $130k. 10,000 miles.

I suspect these cars will continue to drop into the 70-80k range here in the US. R8s and Gallardos seem to have bottomed but Astons are a different bird. Market for them is small.

I do expect them to appreciate but it will be 10 years of flat lining and then a slow rise. I'm 45. I hope when I'm 60 the car is worth 250k. I plan to have it then, and still driving the f$%k out of it. I just don't think you are going to see any manual, Brit/Italian/German supercars for much longer (although BMW M is holding the fort on the manual as well).

JACK6284

326 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st February 2015
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I paid the equivalent of $142,500 for a 2013 car with just 5,500 miles and many extras fitted. I hope in ten years time it is worth £75,000. EarlyV 12's are not below £70k yet. With the price of fuel falling in the UK the next few years will be cheap motoring. I think the V12 S will fall for while then bottom out around £80k in the UK