Greek F-16 jet crashes at Spanish base, killing 10 people

Greek F-16 jet crashes at Spanish base, killing 10 people

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B17NNS

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Cobalt Blue

215 posts

195 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Telecinco.es is reporting that the F16 lost power on take-off and crashed into other jets parked nearby. Later in the same article they say that it crashed onto a hanger.

A video shows plenty of smoke, but filmed from outside the base boundary, reveals little more.

http://www.telecinco.es/informativos/nacional/F-16...

AlexIT

1,482 posts

137 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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According to the news over here 9 of the 13 injured are Italians.
ETA: further news say that 2 Italian Air Force AMX were destroyed.

Edited by AlexIT on Monday 26th January 18:53

B17NNS

Original Poster:

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Monday 26th January 2015
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What a mess frown

Mave

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214 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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:-(

onyx39

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149 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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Sky news reporting Both pilots dead?
Thought F16's were single seaters?

Shar2

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212 months

Monday 26th January 2015
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There are two seat versions too.

RIP to all who've died.

B17NNS

Original Poster:

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Monday 26th January 2015
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onyx39 said:
Sky news reporting Both pilots dead?
Thought F16's were single seaters?
Reported as two seat aircraft. Ten dead.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/26/spain-gree...

Dr Jekyll

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260 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Some of the pictures also show an F15, apparently from Lakenheath, and what looks like a German Tornado.


Is there some big exercise or is the base used for some NATO bombing range?

AlexIT

1,482 posts

137 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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from the 10 victims 2 are the Greek pilots crew of the F-16 and the other 8 are reported to be French aviators (probably ground crew).

Although not as important as the loss of 10 lives, list of planes with major damages should be as follows:

2 Italian AMX
2 French Alpha
1 French Mirage 2000

and reported light damages to

2 French Rafale
1 USAF F-15

And of course the loss of the Greek F16

telecat

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240 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Looks like a Spanish Harrier in the Background as well. Obviously escaped the damage.

AlexIT

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137 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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telecat said:
Looks like a Spanish Harrier in the Background as well. Obviously escaped the damage.
Italians have also 5 AV8-B of their Navy there at the moment.
Fortunately no one was damaged, otherwise they would have had a problem with only 11 left, as the F-35B doesn't look to be quickly available...

jbswagger

729 posts

200 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Spain jet crash deaths rise to 11 as French airman dies.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30998430

Ginetta G15 Girl

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183 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Dr Jekyll said:
Is there some big exercise or is the base used for some NATO bombing range?
TLP - Tactical Leadership Programme. It's a NATO excercise that practices interoperability between NATO air forces.

http://www.scramble.nl/tlp

Siko

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241 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Hope it's not a last day of the exercise flypast fook up or such like. Really hope it's a genuine technical error....

Mojocvh

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261 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Siko said:
Hope it's not a last day of the exercise flypast fook up or such like. Really hope it's a genuine technical error....
How long does TLP go on for these days?

mrloudly

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234 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Base+Aére...


The buildings seem a fair way from the runway. Strange how a single engine aircraft should veer so far off of the runway centreline after suffering power issues on take off...

Eric Mc

121,779 posts

264 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Do we know it was a power failure?

It could be a hydraulic failure leading to loss of control.

Indeed, a loss of power can mean loss of hydraulics leading to loss of control.

FourWheelDrift

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283 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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How much/little money does Greece have spare to keep it's jets fully serviced and maintained?

mrloudly

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234 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Do we know it was a power failure?

It could be a hydraulic failure leading to loss of control.

Indeed, a loss of power can mean loss of hydraulics leading to loss of control.
Merely repeating initial media reports. The F16 does have dual independent hydraulic circuits and there are several well distributed videos
of "dead stick" F16 landings. There are also well documented reports that some F16 variants can "Depart" controlled flight if mis-handled in yaw during high "G" turns.
Purely as a matter of interest, read the last post on this page http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1144