RE: Toyota Trueno AE 86: You Know You Want To
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these were popular in welsh road rallying, back in the late 90,s when they were cheap £500 for a good one back then.I knew a few who run them as cheap rally cars for the lanes.
RWD with 120ish bhp was reasonable back then.
Driftworks tuned one I like their engine choice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3p3ALj7nL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yYpvco5LZg
not really into drift cars,but must admire their work on this one.
RWD with 120ish bhp was reasonable back then.
Driftworks tuned one I like their engine choice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3p3ALj7nL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yYpvco5LZg
not really into drift cars,but must admire their work on this one.
Steamer said:
I'm a bit lost. The beautiful MK 2 Mexico would still be worth twice the price, would it not?
Depends on the country. In the UK, probably. In North America, with both being wrong-hand drive, the Corolla would probably be able to go for that price very quickly (literally a couple of days), if the condition is decent. The Escort would be seen as an old Ford with the wrong motor (not a V8). It would find a buyer among people who could appreciate it, but the audience for old Ford Escorts in North America is a lot smaller than for old JDM metal.Edited by juicy sushi on Tuesday 27th January 21:03
PK1987 said:
If anyone else is interested in doing the same kind of thing in Japan here is the link to the rental company
http://fun2drive.co.jp/
They have a whole host of JDM classics including an NSX and the original skyline GTR.
The fun2drive Skyline is actually a KGC10 GT/GT-X model modified to look like a KPGC10 GT-R. Different engine, diff, steering box, suspension, etc etc. http://fun2drive.co.jp/
They have a whole host of JDM classics including an NSX and the original skyline GTR.
PK1987 said:
If anyone else is interested in doing the same kind of thing in Japan here is the link to the rental company
http://fun2drive.co.jp/
They have a whole host of JDM classics including an NSX and the original skyline GTR.
The fun2drive Skyline is actually a KGC10 GT/GT-X model modified to look like a KPGC10 GT-R. Different engine, diff, steering box, suspension, etc etc. http://fun2drive.co.jp/
They have a whole host of JDM classics including an NSX and the original skyline GTR.
s m said:
Just shows how light cars were though that they managed 8.5 to 60 and a genuine 120mph out of a measly 110bhp though - Corolla was about the same performance but a lot 'revvier' than the CIH Opel
Shame they didn't put the 2.0 XE in as you say though - with 156bhp it would have offered modern day GT86 perforrmance.
They did sell pretty well, the Corollas were a lot rarer. 2700-ish sold in total over here
Lol look at that body roll, the AE looks like its going to go over.Shame they didn't put the 2.0 XE in as you say though - with 156bhp it would have offered modern day GT86 perforrmance.
They did sell pretty well, the Corollas were a lot rarer. 2700-ish sold in total over here
Edited by s m on Tuesday 27th January 18:36
My love of oldschool jap cars is strong, passed up buying a couple of these when they were still reasonable money as I was very deeply in the Nissan scene at the time. Bitterly regret selling my Nissan S12 (D776SNT where are you now), god knows how much I'd hate getting rid of an AE86.
PZR said:
The fun2drive Skyline is actually a KGC10 GT/GT-X model modified to look like a KPGC10 GT-R. Different engine, diff, steering box, suspension, etc etc.
Ah! My bad, I was just going by what i saw when i was there, didn't realise it wasn't a legit GTR! I'm guessing you've been there too? What did you take for a spin? I'm going to Japan again in a couple of months and I want to revisit. Can't decide whether to get the 86 out again or try something else!PZR said:
The fun2drive Skyline is actually a KGC10 GT/GT-X model modified to look like a KPGC10 GT-R. Different engine, diff, steering box, suspension, etc etc.
Ah! My bad, I was just going by what i saw when i was there, didn't realise it wasn't a legit GTR! I'm guessing you've been there too? What did you take for a spin? I'm going to Japan again in a couple of months and I want to revisit. Can't decide whether to get the 86 out again or try something else!SMcP114 said:
The Group 4 and World Cup Escorts are not road cars.
In rally trim they have similar pace and attitude to a BDA Escort as well. Plenty of AE85 and 86's still rallying on my side of the world, as well as older Rwd Corolla DX and Starlets. They're about as common as Escorts.
Targa NZ 2014 by gravelben, on Flickr
Catlins Rally 2014 by gravelben, on FlickrGravelBen said:
In rally trim they have similar pace and attitude to a BDA Escort as well. Plenty of AE85 and 86's still rallying on my side of the world, as well as older Rwd Corolla DX and Starlets. They're about as common as Escorts
I think they only sold about 2700 Levins over here - not sure the Truenos were sold officially in UK. Mantas sold a lot more ( over 4000 in the last year alone ) - I'm not sure if there were import/sales restrictions on Toyotas at that timeIts quite interesting seeing/hearing about how rare or common cars are in different countries. Old Datsuns are pretty popular rally cars here too, and people often transplant Japanese engines into non-BDA Escorts. 4AGE, 3SGE, FJ20, 13b etc. Obviously heaps of Subarus and Evos still being rallied too, kinda goes without saying.
On the other hand old British cars are pretty rare now (most of them rusted out decades ago, rallying saved the Escorts). I don't think I've ever even seen a Manta in the metal and the small hatches Brits seem to love were never common here - seen a handful of 205s on the road but I don't think I've ever seen one competing. Renaults, Citroens, Vauxhalls (except for some Astras sold as Holdens) extremely rare. I know of a single old Golf GTi rallying locally too.
Back on topic - I haven't driven an AE86 yet, but IIRC someone who had described them as being like a Mk1 MX5 with clumsier rear suspension giving it a more wayward rear end. Which sounds like fun really.
On the other hand old British cars are pretty rare now (most of them rusted out decades ago, rallying saved the Escorts). I don't think I've ever even seen a Manta in the metal and the small hatches Brits seem to love were never common here - seen a handful of 205s on the road but I don't think I've ever seen one competing. Renaults, Citroens, Vauxhalls (except for some Astras sold as Holdens) extremely rare. I know of a single old Golf GTi rallying locally too.
Back on topic - I haven't driven an AE86 yet, but IIRC someone who had described them as being like a Mk1 MX5 with clumsier rear suspension giving it a more wayward rear end. Which sounds like fun really.
Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 28th January 11:42
PK1987 said:
PZR said:
The fun2drive Skyline is actually a KGC10 GT/GT-X model modified to look like a KPGC10 GT-R. Different engine, diff, steering box, suspension, etc etc.
Ah! My bad, I was just going by what i saw when i was there, didn't realise it wasn't a legit GTR! I'm guessing you've been there too? What did you take for a spin? I'm going to Japan again in a couple of months and I want to revisit. Can't decide whether to get the 86 out again or try something else!I own a genuine KPGC10, so the difference between a 'replica' / lookalike and 'The Real Thing' is perhaps a little bit more important to me than it might be for others...!
Never seen a car divide opinion as much as this on here!
I personally really like these but I like JDM as a whole, watched plenty of Hot Version / Best Motoring of these tearing round Tsukuba. I think the price is too high on this (especially as it isn't an accurate replica of the Initial D car) but I'd love to try one of these out regardless.
I personally really like these but I like JDM as a whole, watched plenty of Hot Version / Best Motoring of these tearing round Tsukuba. I think the price is too high on this (especially as it isn't an accurate replica of the Initial D car) but I'd love to try one of these out regardless.
s m said:
PK1987 said:
Drove one in Hakone last June. It was one of the best driving experiences i've had. The noise and handling are glorious, it sort of feels like being in a big go kart, you can feel that car rotating around your hips and the progression into a slide so easily. It definitely taught be a lot about RWD handling. The engine is glorious too; loud, bassy and sings then screams at the top. I haven't driven a modern car with such immediate connection and response to inputs. Not to mention feeling awesome because everyone was turning heads and pointing fingers. I may be biased because driving this car has always been on my bucket list, but it certainly lived up to all of my expectations. I will certainly be going back to rent one again. If anyone else is interested in doing the same kind of thing in Japan here is the link to the rental company
http://fun2drive.co.jp/
They have a whole host of JDM classics including an NSX and the original skyline GTR. Cost me around 100 quid for a day of driving. The roads in the area are twisty mountain pass roads so it's all the more fun. I took it and drove it up a misty mount fuji - pic below. Epic day over all!
That sounds like a great driving experience day - albeit a bit far. I guess you can do similar with stuff like 2.8 Capris, TR7s etc over herehttp://fun2drive.co.jp/
They have a whole host of JDM classics including an NSX and the original skyline GTR. Cost me around 100 quid for a day of driving. The roads in the area are twisty mountain pass roads so it's all the more fun. I took it and drove it up a misty mount fuji - pic below. Epic day over all!
GravelBen said:
Back on topic - I haven't driven an AE86 yet, but IIRC someone who had described them as being like a Mk1 MX5 with clumsier rear suspension giving it a more wayward rear end. Which sounds like fun really.
The MX5 and the AE86 are very, very similar in terms of handling. Both hilariously controllable and great on the limit. Edited by GravelBen on Wednesday 28th January 11:42
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