Threatened by a scally.

Threatened by a scally.

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Nezquick

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1,461 posts

126 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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I was walking home last night from the train station after a long day at work and decided to pop into Sainsbury's to buy some bread/milk etc. This is one of those Sainsbury's in the centre of town.

I got to the till and was stood behind this little scally, probably about 19, shaved head, black tracksuit, buying beer....you know the sort. He's also giving the young lad behind the counter a load of abuse. Anyway, he goes to leave the shop and I'm getting my stuff scanned through. Next thing I hear is this young thug shouting, "Eh mate...Eh mate...yeah you!"

I looked around and he's staring at me. "Me?"

"Yeah you, give us 60p so I can buy this fking paper"

"Err...no. I'm not giving you anything." I carried on putting my stuff in bags, paid and walked past him.

"Eh you....what the fk's your problem. Give me fking 60p or i'll knock you out outside".

Me - "seriously....??" and I laughed at him.
He then proceeded to follow me out of the shop and down the street all the while telling me he's going to "kick fk out of me"

Now, I don't really like violent situations. There's no good that can come of them and if I'd have lamped him I would no doubt have been caught on CCTV and locked up for the night. I also don't want to lose my job by getting involved in a fight in the street with some scally who clearly has nothing to lose. So I walked away and he lost interest. I was happy with the outcome albeit not happy that I'd been threatened by this little yob.

What annoys me is that scally's like that see threatening people as a way of life and get away with it because they know decent folk won't do anything about it. It really boils my piss!

Cool story bro and all that, I know.

BlackST

9,079 posts

165 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Always best to walk away (if you aren't a powerfully built company director)
Never know what they could be carrying.

Hoofy

76,341 posts

282 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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You did the right thing. Mind you, you should have demanded he give you £20 so you could buy some whisky or you'll knock him out. See how he reacts when tables are turned. silly

TurboHatchback

4,159 posts

153 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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There's nothing to be gained from engaging in a physical confrontation and no reason to give them any money so yours was the correct course of action. As tempting as it might be to batter them into a coma, you'll either end up in hospital or a police cell depending on how it goes, neither is a good place to be.

I wouldn't bother personally but maybe one should report such behavior to the police? I'm sure threatening to 'kick the fk out of you' constitutes some form of offence and someone like that is probably known to the police.

DizzyN

408 posts

165 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Faired far better than I did. Years ago was out in Amersham with friends for another friend's birthday. Walking back to the station, got shouted at, then chased by a group of guys that match your gentleman's description. Managed to get to the train station, jump on a train and shout out the doors for the train driver to shut the doors but to no avail. Promptly got cornered and bottled. 999 called, ambulance turned up, police never did.

The reason for all of this? They THOUGHT we were from a certain town, when in fact my group and I all lived about half an hour away!

I suppose they will always be around as there's nothing/no one to stop them!

J3PTF

264 posts

158 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Hand over 60p as requeste.

Phone police.

Report mugging.

Job done

Cataldo

1,357 posts

194 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Handled the situation perfectly in my opinion. you made the chavvy cretin look like a fool, and maybe if we can all see our way to making just one chav look like a fool everyday they'll eventually realise they are fools and get jobs or something.

anyway, I digress. well done OP.

nitrodave

1,262 posts

138 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Having lived in London my whole life I see scumbags like this often. Be rest assured that one day, they will try this on someone less forgiving and they will get knocked the fook out, and then maybe they will learn the hard way that this behaviour is not acceptable.

Just don't let it be you who succumbs to it

digger_R

1,807 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Nezquick said:
"Eh you....what the fk's your problem. Give me fking 60p or i'll knock you out outside".

Me - "seriously....??" and I laughed at him.
He then proceeded to follow me out of the shop and down the street all the while telling me he's going to "kick fk out of me"

Now, I don't really like violent situations. There's no good that can come of them and if I'd have lamped him I would no doubt have been caught on CCTV and locked up for the night.
Not that I'm a well built company director etc, etc but where does the law stand if you hit him first? He's following you telling you he's going to knock you out? Is there no defence to saying you genuinely felt your life was in danger? Not that I'm advocating it, it just seems very strange

mcbook

1,384 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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You did the right thing. There's really too much to lose by getting into a fight with an idiot like that.

However, you should really call the police and report it. There will be CCTV from Sainsburys and the police will probably know the guy you're talking about when they see him. Attempted mugging / threatening behaviour - there has to be an offence for this... Don't let him get away with that behaviour without consequence.

Nezquick

Original Poster:

1,461 posts

126 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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digger_R said:
Not that I'm a well built company director etc, etc but where does the law stand if you hit him first? He's following you telling you he's going to knock you out? Is there no defence to saying you genuinely felt your life was in danger? Not that I'm advocating it, it just seems very strange
I don't know - that's the thing. The problem lies in the fact that I wouldn't want to find out what would happen if I had just smacked him. There's a chance he could press charges and it could go through the courts. Even if you were found not guilty, would you want to risk that or would you bottle it and take a plea deal and end up with a record? It's a tough one.

Looking back at it, I know I handled it the right way but I have to admit I felt a bit ashamed by walking away and trying to ignore him.

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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J3PTF said:
Hand over 60p as requeste.

Phone police.

Report mugging.

Job done
OP "Hi I have just been mugged"

Police "OK sir, are you hurt? do you require medical attention?"

OP "No I am fine."

Police "What did they take?"

OP "60p"

Police "Sorry sir can you repeat that"

OP "60 pence......for a news paper....i think it was for the SUN"

Police "Thanks for the call, armed response are on their way"....click....bbbbbbbbbbbbbb

OP "really, but I haven't told you where I am.....hello.......hello"

hehe

Mr Roper

12,996 posts

194 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Anyway, he goes to leave the shop and I'm getting my stuff scanned through. Next thing I hear is this young thug shouting, "Eh mate...Eh mate...yeah you!"

I looked around and he's staring at me. "Me?"

"Yeah you, give us 60p so I can buy this fking paper"

"Err...no. I'm not giving you anything." I carried on putting my stuff in bags, paid and walked past him.

"Eh you....what the fk's your problem. Give me fking 60p or i'll knock you out outside".

"fk off"


lukefreeman

1,494 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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God I only wanted 60p.

Won't botehr next time

digger_R

1,807 posts

206 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Nezquick said:
I don't know - that's the thing. The problem lies in the fact that I wouldn't want to find out what would happen if I had just smacked him. There's a chance he could press charges and it could go through the courts. Even if you were found not guilty, would you want to risk that or would you bottle it and take a plea deal and end up with a record? It's a tough one.

Looking back at it, I know I handled it the right way but I have to admit I felt a bit ashamed by walking away and trying to ignore him.
I'm not saying you should do anything else, I'm just wondering where the line is? Does he have to be 1 meter away? 1 foot? 1 inch? Or you only allowed to retaliate once you have a black eye?


Fastchas

2,643 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Ask him to rub your erection that he's just given you...

Patch1875

4,894 posts

132 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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I would have lamped him.

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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60p? Sounds like a Telegraph reader.

Not worth wasting your energy on O.P. The urchin sounds like a right tt, and it's pretty much guaranteed he will get properly filled in one day when he crosses the wrong person (and when there's no CCTV around). Hopefully, the damage will be serious.

Edited by Baz Tench on Thursday 29th January 12:51

Yoof

73 posts

221 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Fastchas said:
Ask him to rub your erection that he's just given you...
Chortles!

Nezquick

Original Poster:

1,461 posts

126 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Fastchas said:
Ask him to rub your erection that he's just given you...
I left that bit out of my original story. Shhh! biggrin