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A small niggle for me is that I am not able to heal and toe on my car on spirited down changes while on the brakes.
When I test drove other monaro's I was able to heel and toe, but the throttle was a fair distance from the brake pedal. On my car the gap is too far for my size 12's to reach. Is it possible to either move or bend the metal of the throttle pedal so it sits closer without affecting the application of throttle.
Your help is most appreciated
James
When I test drove other monaro's I was able to heel and toe, but the throttle was a fair distance from the brake pedal. On my car the gap is too far for my size 12's to reach. Is it possible to either move or bend the metal of the throttle pedal so it sits closer without affecting the application of throttle.
Your help is most appreciated
James
It's a monaro. The throttle is nearly touching the side of the car. Getting on for a 6" gap. Not like my BMW which is perfect. It's almost possible with walking boots, but with these on I am liable to head but the steering wheel such is the pedal feel. If I wear my omp track day boots I have no chance as I would need size 15's.
So for those that have modified how did you do it.
Brute force or heating up gently or cutting mounting and re welding.
Thanks for the responses this far
So for those that have modified how did you do it.
Brute force or heating up gently or cutting mounting and re welding.
Thanks for the responses this far
Sohlman said:
It's a monaro. The throttle is nearly touching the side of the car. Getting on for a 6" gap. Not like my BMW which is perfect. It's almost possible with walking boots, but with these on I am liable to head but the steering wheel such is the pedal feel. If I wear my omp track day boots I have no chance as I would need size 15's.
So for those that have modified how did you do it.
Brute force or heating up gently or cutting mounting and re welding.
Thanks for the responses this far
I found it wasn't so much the horizontal spacing but the height difference between the brake and the gas that was my stumbling point. I also slightly closed the distance but too close is an mot failure!So for those that have modified how did you do it.
Brute force or heating up gently or cutting mounting and re welding.
Thanks for the responses this far
The height difference is not much more than about 1cm. it's just so far away. You could fit the brake pedal between the gap again. On my 325 track car it's about an inch and a half and about 2 inches on my 635csi. Father 911 is about 2 inches. All of these are easy to modulate a satisfying heal and toe.
On the track it's great as allows a faster down change without locking up on the change which allows you to concentrate on a bit of trail braking into a hairpin or such like to set up the rear for the next corner.
Looking at the monaro pedal it's all metal and looks like either a slight bend or a slight shortening of the cross bar would cure the problem.
On the track it's great as allows a faster down change without locking up on the change which allows you to concentrate on a bit of trail braking into a hairpin or such like to set up the rear for the next corner.
Looking at the monaro pedal it's all metal and looks like either a slight bend or a slight shortening of the cross bar would cure the problem.
Sohlman said:
The height difference is not much more than about 1cm. it's just so far away. You could fit the brake pedal between the gap again. On my 325 track car it's about an inch and a half and about 2 inches on my 635csi. Father 911 is about 2 inches. All of these are easy to modulate a satisfying heal and toe.
On the track it's great as allows a faster down change without locking up on the change which allows you to concentrate on a bit of trail braking into a hairpin or such like to set up the rear for the next corner.
Looking at the monaro pedal it's all metal and looks like either a slight bend or a slight shortening of the cross bar would cure the problem.
The actual pedals believe it or not are plastic. It was defo a shock to discover that when I drilled the holes to fit the pedal covers On the track it's great as allows a faster down change without locking up on the change which allows you to concentrate on a bit of trail braking into a hairpin or such like to set up the rear for the next corner.
Looking at the monaro pedal it's all metal and looks like either a slight bend or a slight shortening of the cross bar would cure the problem.
Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
V88Dicky said:
I find the pedals perfectly spaced for heel and toe, and I only have size 11s
I have big feet for a woman being a size 7 but the spacing isn't a problem even for me just that without boosting the height I need to be too hard on the brakes to get decent (and safe) coverage of the brake whilst being able to blip the gas. Hence my pedal mod works great on the road which is where I do 99% of my driving in the Monaro.EmmaJ said:
The actual pedals believe it or not are plastic.
This was my problem with the vxr8 throttle pedal.my solution
V88Dicky said:
I find the pedals perfectly spaced for heel and toe, and I only have size 11s
Although not perfect, I certainly find the pedals fine on the Monaro and I've got seemingly tiny size 10 / 11 feet... It may be to do with how people heel and toe.
I do it with the ball of my foot on the brake pedal, then pivot my heel anti clockwise towards the accelerator. So actually using my heel and my toe. I think those that are struggling and wish to move the pedal closer are presumably preferring to use the sort of side to side method, where the left side of the foot is on the brake and the right side is on the accelerator?
I only find this possible in the Alfa, although even then I still prefer to pivot my foot as I find it doesn't require shifting my braking position at all, and so just feels more 'secure', in so far as I'm less likely to slip off the pedal or anything!
I may be way off here, but that's certainly the impression I get when people say about the pedals being too far apart?
EDIT:
As it's topical, here's Senna doing it presumably the way you guys prefer it (in some awesome footwear
)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzLjZWrpzmQ
And for reference, here is how I do it in the Monaro which works for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZeuSgEj4
Edited by SturdyHSV on Thursday 29th January 23:20
Edited by SturdyHSV on Thursday 29th January 23:21
SturdyHSV said:
Although not perfect, I certainly find the pedals fine on the Monaro and I've got seemingly tiny size 10 / 11 feet...
It may be to do with how people heel and toe.
I do it with the ball of my foot on the brake pedal, then pivot my heel anti clockwise towards the accelerator. So actually using my heel and my toe. I think those that are struggling and wish to move the pedal closer are presumably preferring to use the sort of side to side method, where the left side of the foot is on the brake and the right side is on the accelerator?
I only find this possible in the Alfa, although even then I still prefer to pivot my foot as I find it doesn't require shifting my braking position at all, and so just feels more 'secure', in so far as I'm less likely to slip off the pedal or anything!
I may be way off here, but that's certainly the impression I get when people say about the pedals being too far apart?
EDIT:
As it's topical, here's Senna doing it presumably the way you guys prefer it (in some awesome footwear )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzLjZWrpzmQ
And for reference, here is how I do it in the Monaro which works for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZeuSgEj4
100% THIS!It may be to do with how people heel and toe.
I do it with the ball of my foot on the brake pedal, then pivot my heel anti clockwise towards the accelerator. So actually using my heel and my toe. I think those that are struggling and wish to move the pedal closer are presumably preferring to use the sort of side to side method, where the left side of the foot is on the brake and the right side is on the accelerator?
I only find this possible in the Alfa, although even then I still prefer to pivot my foot as I find it doesn't require shifting my braking position at all, and so just feels more 'secure', in so far as I'm less likely to slip off the pedal or anything!
I may be way off here, but that's certainly the impression I get when people say about the pedals being too far apart?
EDIT:
As it's topical, here's Senna doing it presumably the way you guys prefer it (in some awesome footwear
)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzLjZWrpzmQ
And for reference, here is how I do it in the Monaro which works for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZeuSgEj4
Edited by SturdyHSV on Thursday 29th January 23:20
Edited by SturdyHSV on Thursday 29th January 23:21
You have to do the latter technique by pivoting your foot, no way you can do side by side
When the pedals are well spaced using the side of the foot is fine. Using the ball of the foot I can't reach as the pedal is over by the carpet and door on the far right side. I need to take a photo tomorrow. When talking about metal I was talking about the linkage rather than the pedal bit that you press and adjusting this. If the linkage is plastic then I am in trouble. The other car I drove at Elite was not ideal, but the throttle was a good 3 inches closer to the brake pedal. I can get my size 12 foot through the gap in mine.
Thanks for all the posts all very helpful thank you
Thanks for all the posts all very helpful thank you
As promised a couple of photos. The gap as you can see is pretty big
This one is with foot at maximum pivot and I have pretty chunky shoes on in size 12. I am also now touching the floor with my heel. If I move over more I will slip off brake. All photos taken stationary with engine off.
This one is with foot at maximum pivot and I have pretty chunky shoes on in size 12. I am also now touching the floor with my heel. If I move over more I will slip off brake. All photos taken stationary with engine off.
Edited by Sohlman on Friday 30th January 23:29
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